trentmccleary
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I feel like Dorion is still icing his butt after getting massively robbed in the last trade with the Av's. I'm not interested to see such an important deal go through the Av's again.
It seems like you’re not adjusting at all for cap inflation.First of all. I’m not of the mindset that any player including McDavid is worth 12 million a year. You look at what Pittsburgh has cap wise and how they can build a team. Then you look at the Oil.
And nobody is saying Karlsson isn’t a star. He’s much better than Barrie as an overall dman. But Barrie can give you slightly worse production for much less pay.
And to me it’s more like Barrie + 4 million in cap to add more depth + 2019 Sens lottery pick is without question more valuable to me than Karlsson.
Not even an indictment on EK. It just the proper way to run a team in a capped sport imo.
Leave aside the fact Barrie’s best friend is the Avs best player and chemistry is a thing. This isn’t NHL 19
Edit: We all have a number. And if EK would sign long term for like 8 per year, then for me, I’d think it’d be worth the moving pieces and breaking up the chemistry for hockey sake
If the Avs could get an extended EK for barrie +Ott 1st, I could see the Avs having a strong offer for Tavaras to join them as well. They have so much cap space that it is actually plausable.
Yes and no.It seems like you’re not adjusting at all for cap inflation.
You can’t use a team like Pittsburgh as evidence on why not to sign Karlsson to a 12M deal.
When Malkin signed his deal, he ate 15% of the cap. Karlsson at 12 is pretty much the same thing. It’s only because so many years have passed that the deal now looks normal.
Never going to even be discussed, then.Sens 2019 first plus Makar needs to be the basis of the deal period.
Nope.Ill ask Avs fans this, would you not want our 4th pick overall tonight in a deal for McKinnon? Because we know you would and it's not unreasonable. So saying Makar is untouchable for Karlsson is just silly
I'd say it's either Makar or the Ottawa pick and then work on what the Avs are giving up.The notion that Makar is a non starter for Avs fans is ridiculous. Hes a prospect. A very good one i might add but hes still just a magic bean at this point.
You are acquiring a future Hall of Famer just entering his prime in Karlsson so yeah we want a lot as a fan base.
You are not getting last years 4th overall + another pick that is probably valued around #5 right now next year for 1 year of 28 year old EK who will command 11M+ next year .(And the major reason for OTT to make this deal is to get their 1st back, isn't it?)Ill ask Avs fans this, would you not want our 4th pick overall tonight in a deal for McKinnon? Because we know you would and it's not unreasonable. So saying Makar is untouchable for Karlsson is just silly
MacKinnon is on an amazing contract, is only 22, is dedicated to the team, and not even up for renewal for many years.Ill ask Avs fans this, would you not want our 4th pick overall tonight in a deal for McKinnon? Because we know you would and it's not unreasonable. So saying Makar is untouchable for Karlsson is just silly
Ill ask Avs fans this, would you not want our 4th pick overall tonight in a deal for McKinnon? Because we know you would and it's not unreasonable. So saying Makar is untouchable for Karlsson is just silly
Ill ask Avs fans this, would you not want our 4th pick overall tonight in a deal for McKinnon? Because we know you would and it's not unreasonable. So saying Makar is untouchable for Karlsson is just silly
Sens fans in a nutshell. You think you can just snatch Makar, get your own pick back and a Colorado pick for a dude that's on his way out the door.To be done in offseason
Sens
Who Colorado picks 16th overall OR their 2019 pick(Avs choose)
Ottawa 2019 pick
Cale Makar
Avs
Erik Karlsson+8 year ectension
Ill ask Avs fans this, would you not want our 4th pick overall tonight in a deal for McKinnon? Because we know you would and it's not unreasonable. So saying Makar is untouchable for Karlsson is just silly
You're missing the point where Karlsson wants out. Its not like you have a Connor McDavid or Sidney Crosby situation and your player is happy where he is. He's had a terrible drama filled year and wants out of Ottawa. That is why you are not getting top trade value for him.Ill ask Avs fans this, would you not want our 4th pick overall tonight in a deal for McKinnon? Because we know you would and it's not unreasonable. So saying Makar is untouchable for Karlsson is just silly