Confirmed Trade: [OTT/ARI] Derek Stepan for 2021 2nd round pick

[CupofOil]

How the hell does Stepan have positive value and why the hell is Ottawa giving up a draft pick to absorb a bad contract? They could have just signed somebody like Soderberg for less dollars and the same production and vet presence essentially.

I can't imagine Stepan having more value than a 2nd in a flip and trade scenario at the deadline so I don't get it from that standpoint either.

 

[JT Kreider]

Has Stepan really fallen off that much that the replies here are surprised he returned a second?

I remember him being pretty good for the Rangers.

He was good for the Rangers his first few years, but he was slow as molasses and could get away with it because the game wasnt as fast as it was now. Now he cant.

 

[Stive Morgan]

Shades of the Kyle Turris trade (not in a draft bust way, but a change-of-scenery way)

 

[DaveMatthew]

Reasons I guess...

Seriously I can't believe Ottawa paid to take Stepan's contract.

He makes $2M in real money. Ottawa is not against the cap, so cap hit doesn’t matter.

They’re paying $2M for veteran depth on a very young team, and a guy who can provide some leadership.

With the amount of picks they had this year, and another 4 in the 1st 2 rounds next year, losing one doesn’t hurt. Especially since they can easily recoup mid-round picks by trading any of Stepan, Anisimov, Gudbranson, etc at the deadline.

You can only hoard so many prospects and picks. At some point, you need to fill out an NHL roster and try to be at least semi-competitive so you can develop young players. Ottawa is at that point.

 

[NyQuil]

I don't get it.

It's like when we got Tyler Arnason.

 

[OmniSens]

Why would we pay a 2nd?

 

[Viqsi]

That's... much more than I thought he would get.

 

[bashbros32]

Coyotes get a 2nd rounder, Stepan goes to Ottawa.

I'll be honest...I'm kinda shocked that we managed to move Stepan without giving up anything else, let alone getting a desperately-needed draft pick out of it. For a GM as normally-excellent as Dorion, this feels kinda out of place to get a declining Stepan and nothing extra for a second-round pick.

Surprised it wasn't Logan Brown plus a 2nd for Stepan and a 7th based on prior declining center trades he's made haha.

 

[DingDongCharlie]

Dorion is an idiot to give a good pick for Stepan especially in this market.

 

[mouser]

How the hell does Stepan have positive value and why the hell is Ottawa giving up a draft pick to absorb a bad contract? They could have just signed somebody like Soderberg for less dollars and the same production and vet presence essentially.

I can't imagine Stepan having more value than a 2nd in a flip and trade scenario at the deadline so I don't get it from that standpoint either.

Stepan at $2m is not a bad contract.

 

[La Bamba]

Lmao what a bad deal for Ottawa. There's so many better players in UFA that would sign for 1/5 of what Stepan makes without giving up a 2nd

 

[benjiv1]

Very strange, I assume Ottawa intends to flip him at the TDL and recoup the pick.

If it means giving younger players easier assignments, then I’m all for it, I just hope it doesn’t come at the expense of someone like Brown or White...

Likely too many young players on certain lines, but I would roll...

Stuetzle-Brown-Dadonov
Tkachuk-White-Batherson
Galchenyuk-Stepan-Brown
Paul-Tierney-Watson
Anisimov

Likely means Norris will spend most of the year in the A, unless L. Brown can’t hack it,

 

[boredmale]

Why would we pay a 2nd?

Look at actual salary and not caphit

 

[ScottyK]

Stepan had value ?

 

[WADEugottaBELAKthat]

Stepan has given up. There’s no more juice to squeeze there.

 

[DaveMatthew]

I don't get it.

It's like when we got Tyler Arnason.

Really? It’s not at all the same.

When we traded Arnason we had a stacked team and were a favourite to win the cup. He was our “deadline” acquisition, which was brutal.

We’re now a very young team that will need some veteran depth and leadership to begin becoming competitive. By all accounts, Stepan is excellent in the room and can still eat minutes if any of our young guys has an off night or needs some time in the press box.

 

[OmniSens]

Look at actual salary and not caphit

Still would not pay a 2nd, unless Pierre desperately needed leadership in the middle.

 

[Ryan52]

What a terrible trade that was by Chayka

he was a terrible gm

 

[mouser]

Lmao what a bad deal for Ottawa. There's so many better players in UFA that would sign for 1/5 of what Stepan makes without giving up a 2nd

Can’t sign a player for $400k, league minimum is $700k.

 

[MarkusKetterer]

Lmao what a bad deal for Ottawa. There's so many better players in UFA that would sign for 1/5 of what Stepan makes without giving up a 2nd

What better NHL player is signing for $400K?

20% of 2,000,000 = 400,000

 

[NyQuil]

We’re now a very young team that will need some veteran depth and leadership to begin becoming competitive. By all accounts, Stepan is excellent in the room and can still eat minutes if any of our young guys has an off night or needs some time in the press box.

I don't put a lot of faith in declining veterans.

Daymond Langkow was another pointless acquisition.

 

[branch]

Senators needed a center really f***ing bad. I would have offer myself if Chris f***in Tierney was #1C going into the season

 

[BankStreetParade]

Every time I read a trade thread like this I can't help but wonder why people make a second round pick sound like one of the single most valuable trading chips a team can part with. Like it's almost to the point where a second round pick is worth more than a 1st.

 

[boredmale]

Stepan has given up. There’s no more juice to squeeze there.

 

[MarkusKetterer]

I don't put a lot of faith in declining veterans.

Daymond Langkow was another pointless acquisition.

Langkow played for the Sens? Why do I have no recollection of this?