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Blackhawkswincup

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Promotion and relegation is really the only part of soccer that interests me, so I’m all for seeing a recent powerhouse stashed in a lower division for a bit.

I’d imagine that unless specifically barred for a set period of time that they’d be right back up very soon, though.
You can penalize a team points in the standings too. Like you start the season with -20 points in the standings.

Relegation and docking pts in standings to me make no sense and water down the product/brand

Seriously imagine if Hawks were relegated to AHL or some other nonsense or had to start year out with -20 pts over some BS

Punish them with huge fine that hurts them financially and strip ownership/banish management for wrongdoing not any of this nonsense when they violate rules
 

DisgruntledHawkFan

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Relegation and docking pts in standings to me make no sense and water down the product/brand

Seriously imagine if Hawks were relegated to AHL or some other nonsense or had to start year out with -20 pts over some BS

Punish them with huge fine that hurts them financially and strip ownership/banish management for wrongdoing not any of this nonsense when they violate rules
How do you financially hurt a team setting up shell companies to funnel money into the team? They aren't doing it to make money.
 

TLEH

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Someone on Reddit said it best. Relegate them and theyll be back in a year. Fine them and it doesn't matter. Dock them points and its whatever.

Take away their trophies and their accomplishments and that is what hurts the most.
 

DisgruntledHawkFan

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Someone on Reddit said it best. Relegate them and theyll be back in a year. Fine them and it doesn't matter. Dock them points and its whatever.

Take away their trophies and their accomplishments and that is what hurts the most.
You can't take away trophies after the fact. On paper sure but it's a hollow gesture.
 

TLEH

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You can't take away trophies after the fact. On paper sure but it's a hollow gesture.
They did that to Juventus after Calciopoli and relegated them. Also they were winning that year and they got moved to last place and the title awarded to Milan. I think removing accomplishments does do something. Obviously they "won" but they won't be remembered for winning it if you actually take it away. They will be remembered for cheating and winning it.
 

DisgruntledHawkFan

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They did that to Juventus after Calciopoli and relegated them. Also they were winning that year and they got moved to last place and the title awarded to Milan. I think removing accomplishments does do something. Obviously they "won" but they won't be remembered for winning it if you actually take it away. They will be remembered for cheating and winning it.
I have no idea off the top of my head who lost to USC. Do they claim a national championship? Was it Vince Young who lost to Bush for the Heisman?
 

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I am hitting the WM Open Friday. Hope the hype is all they say it is about it with shenanigans, etc.
 

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Relegation and docking pts in standings to me make no sense and water down the product/brand

Seriously imagine if Hawks were relegated to AHL or some other nonsense or had to start year out with -20 pts over some BS

Punish them with huge fine that hurts them financially and strip ownership/banish management for wrongdoing not any of this nonsense when they violate rules

Money means nothing to them, a fine will do absolutely nothing. And they can't take the club away either. It's not like North American where they can force you to sell because your ownership is a de facto 1/30th ownership in the league, the club structure is far more individual.

I am hitting the WM Open Friday. Hope the hype is all they say it is about it with shenanigans, etc.
Hope you have a blast! Bucket list trip for me, one of these years I'll get down there.
 

Putt Pirate

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So I'm guessing you'll be one the crazy 40,000(?) spectators at hole 16.
I am not getting up that early to get in line as people get in line at 4am to get the 16th seating. Going to roll in and watch warm ups, maybe follow Rory. I’ll have a Hawaiian blue pattern bucket hat on and a peach colored vest if you watch.
 

TLEH

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I have no idea off the top of my head who lost to USC. Do they claim a national championship? Was it Vince Young who lost to Bush for the Heisman?
Yeah I guess I view that differently. That is all a load of shit. The fact that Bush got money didn't help them win. Financially cheating to get better players is a bigger deal than getting some fat chains. Probably my own bias as I think college player should get paid anyway. I realize those deals might have sent him to USC instead of somewhere else. idk.
 

Illinihockey

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Relegation and docking pts in standings to me make no sense and water down the product/brand

Seriously imagine if Hawks were relegated to AHL or some other nonsense or had to start year out with -20 pts over some BS

Punish them with huge fine that hurts them financially and strip ownership/banish management for wrongdoing not any of this nonsense when they violate rules

You could literally fine them 500 billion pounds and it wouldn’t hurt them
 

Blackhawkswincup

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Bulls need to make playoffs and he may be enough to get a 1st round exit

Bulls are a collection of fading vets already so adding another to get 4 playoff games would be viewed as win by this failed franchise.
 
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