Other Chicago & General Sports Thread LXI: Bulls Talk

[MurrayBannerman]

The Cubs scored 1 or 0 runs in 40 games this year and just went 22 innings scoring 2 runs in must win games at home. They were 8th in the NL in runs scored from August to the end of the season. The Cubs pitching as a whole was 3rd in ERA in all of baseball this year.

And that's the only pitching category they were any good in this year.

Cubs were 18th in K/9, 27th in BB/9, 4th in HR/FB% (two things!), 18th in FIP, and 21st in team DRA.

 

[RayP]

There's a big Kris Bryant sized hole there.

Still, offensively, the team took a small step back, but with all the injuries that's expected.

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Please. There was still plenty of talent on this offense to not be so horribly inconsistent and easily shutdown.

 

[Easy E]

I'd pick up Hamels option, no reason not to.

I only said no because of cap space .

 

[hawksrule]

You need to win now.

He peaked, the team is regressing, you need to make a change quickly with the inevitable cap issues coming. Yes, there were injuries.

Why was Girardi fired?

Those are all platitudes. Your inability to point to any fireable offenses undermines your whole premise.

 

[MurrayBannerman]

Those are all platitudes. Your inability to point to any fireable offenses undermines your whole premise.

If you want one, the way he managed the bench last night would be it. That's rash, but it would be it.

 

[b1e9a8r5s]

Not a Cubs fan, but I still say they should move Schwarber. It's not his fault or anything, but if you can't trust him in the field or against lefties he's more valuable as a trade chip, IMO.

 

[Easy E]

Those are all platitudes. Your inability to point to any fireable offenses undermines your whole premise.

If you so my man. Just an opinion, not the gospel

 

[hawksrule]

If you want one, the way he managed the bench last night would be it. That's rash, but it would be it.

Please.

 

[RayP]

I can’t believe Joe pinch hit the worst post season hitter of all time with two outs, the bases loaded, and the game on the line over Schwarber. That was really bad.

 

[MurrayBannerman]

Please.

Terrance Gore had two at bats.

 

[Illinihockey]

And that's the only pitching category they were any good in this year.

Cubs were 18th in K/9, 27th in BB/9, 4th in HR/FB% (two things!), 18th in FIP, and 21st in team DRA.

It’s the only category that actually matters.

 

[MurrayBannerman]

It’s the only category that actually matters.

Cool.

 

[HawksBeerFan]

I don't think Chili did a bad job. The pitching was a lot more of an issue. Sure, the bats ended cold, but that happens.

I get not putting this on the hitting coach, they receive much more of the blame than they should, at the end of the day it's on the players.

But to say the pitching was more of an issue than the hitting, that's nonsense.

 

[Illinihockey]

I only said no because of cap space .

There’s no salary cap

 

[HawksBeerFan]

I only said no because of cap space .

You don't let a guy like Hamels walk with the way he was pitching. You just don't.

 

[hawksrule]

Terrance Gore had two at bats.

And putting him in the game is what got us a run. Can't blame the guy for trying to create something out of nothing when the bats were dead.

A manager's most important job by far is managing the pitching staff and bullpen over the course of a season. Hitting he has very little control over.

 

[HawksBeerFan]

Terrance Gore had two at bats.

He doesn't get a single at bat if Joe doesn't get him in in the first place.

Just stop.

 

[IU Hawks fan]

It’s the only category that actually matters.

...in 1985.

 

[hawksrule]

I can’t believe Joe pinch hit the worst post season hitter of all time with two outs, the bases loaded, and the game on the line over Schwarber. That was really bad.

And when Schwarber came up he struck out and looked terrible doing it. Swung at what would have made the count 3-0, and was a mile late swinging at strike three out of the zone.

 

[MurrayBannerman]

And putting him in the game is what got us a run. Can't blame the guy for trying to create something out of nothing when the bats were dead.

A manager's most important job by far is managing the pitching staff and bullpen over the course of a season. Hitting he has very little control over.

The fact that he had to hit at all in this game was awful though. That cost the Cubs two extremely valuable outs late in the game because all he had left on the bench was Caratini.

Agreed.

If they really want to promote Brandon Hyde, they'll do it. But otherwise, I don't see a good replacement for Joe.

 

[hawksrule]

The fact that he had to hit at all in this game was awful though. That cost the Cubs two extremely valuable outs late in the game because all he had left on the bench was Caratini.

Agreed.

If they really want to promote Brandon Hyde, they'll do it. But otherwise, I don't see a good replacement for Joe.

That's the nature of a thirteen inning game.

 

[x Tame Impala]

Tough break Cub fans. My dad wasn't very happy last night. I know Bryant is hurt, but 1-6 with 3K's...not good.

Someone posted this in the last thread, but these last two games felt like watching the Hawks-Preds series two years ago.

Legitimately not trying to be THAT guy, but does this wildcard game count as the Cubs making the playoffs? So we can at least say they made it 4 years in a row?

 

[MurrayBannerman]

That's the nature of a thirteen inning game.

Gore came in the 8th inning.

 

[hawksrule]

Gore came in the 8th inning.

And what innings were his at-bats?

 

[Illinihockey]

...in 1985.

Except not. Hendricks routinely out pitches his FIP and xFIP, same with Cishek. What Kyle Freeland did last night wasn’t an accident, he’s another guy who out paces his FIP and xFIP routinely. Pitching to soft contact is a skill. Not trying to prop up pitching wins here