So... I'm thinking about moving to the California Bay area for a job offer... Sharks tickets are $20 O.O haha.
Anyone have experience living in the bay? Pros and cons??
Yeah, I moved out here for work back in the Spring. And you're right about the Sharks--I get to see the Wild for $16 on Thursday, so that's definitely nice.
The Bay Area is a really strange place and I still don't really feel like I've wrapped my head around the pros and cons. This was my first big move and I definitely underestimated just how much of an upheaval it would be and how much culture shock and general feeling-out-of-place there would be. But off the top of my head:
Pros:
- It's ****ing gorgeous. This is some of the most beautiful geography in the US--and nowhere else that rivals it is even close to this urbanized. I'm a 15 minute drive from gorgeous (albeit rugged) Pacific beaches. I'm an hour from Santa Cruz where the beaches are warm enough to swim. I'm three hours from Yosemite, the most-visited National Park in the world. And there are a ton more.
- The working culture here is leaps and bounds better. People are so much more casual in the office, so much more flexible (hours, errands, etc.), the perks are a lot better, and there are a lot more opportunities to work on cool stuff. This is probably more true in my field (tech) than others, but I definitely noticed a big difference between MN tech and CA tech in that regard, and I wouldn't be surprised if it extended at least a little bit to your potential job too.
- Mexican food! And Italian food! And Asian food!
- There's just generally more
stuff going on. More events, both big and small. There's culture on every corner, and it's often pretty ambitious.
- San Francisco is one of the most fascinating, culturally vibrant cities in the world.
- There's still hockey! It ain't Minnesota, and it's not like a ubiquitous part of the culture, but there are still several leagues and I've had plenty of opportunities to keep playing out here.
- Best state flag in the USA.
Mixed:
- The people are beautiful. (Mixed because I don't know how you feel about competition...
)
- The public transit here ranges wildly--some of it is clunky or confusing or difficult to navigate and transfer, or terribly slow, and rail coverage is quite spotty. But some of it is really quite effective, and transit of
some form or another extends to a lot of places.
- The weather. Everyone else seems to gush about it, so maybe I'm just weird in this respect, but I really miss the seasons in MN. Of course it's really pleasant and I enjoy it a lot of the time, but it's so consistent throughout the year that I don't really feel like time is passing anymore. It's kind of disorienting. It just doesn't seem at all like December right now.
Cons:
- Quality of life in general is a bit lower. There's more crime, more income inequality, public infrastructure is outdated and poorly-designed, and honestly a lot of things feel pretty run down.
- No Grain Belt.
- I'm not sure how much of this to attribute to just moving in general and how much to the Bay Area, but it seems weirdly difficult to meet people around here. People seem to be kind of set in their social niches, and a lot of the people who open up to you will probably also be recent transplants.
- Rent. Holy **** rent. It's ludicrously expensive, and that's everywhere--not just in the City. And if you
do want to live in the City, not only will you pay out the ass, but it's ridiculously competitive trying to convince a landlord to pick you.
- Traffic is ****ing brutal. Only LA is worse. Roads seem like they're designed to cause traffic jams. Other drivers are absolute morons. Half an inch of rain has the same effect as a blizzard in MN. And it's completely unpredictable--you'll get random pockets of rush hour traffic on weekends, or at like 7:30 at night, but then other days will be completely fine.
- When I was touring places to live I ended up feeling like San Francisco was the only liveable place. The entire South Bay is just a mass of lifeless sprawl--just dense enough to be claustrophobic and ugly and congested and inconvenient, but not dense enough or well-planned enough to carry any of the benefits of urbanism. Oakland's issues are well-documented. The East Bay has some more bearable suburbs, but it's also really isolated, and has the worst traffic in the area by far. And then the North Bay is beautiful and liveable, but totally isolated.
- Time zones mean it's hard to keep up with sports. Even if you have GameCenter (which is awesome as an out-of-market fan) it's still tough to catch a 7PM EST puck drop, particularly if you don't leave work till 6 and it takes you an hour to get home.
That's the stuff that comes to mind ATM. Anything in particular that you're wondering about?
Edit: Also if you do it I'll buy you a beer