Prospect Info: Olli Juolevi, Pt. IV | Out for remainder of 2018-19

[Pip]

Green will love him

 

[EXTRAS]

He will probably be a 35 point dman at the nhl level.

 

[Bleach Clean]

Green will love him

Yeah, just like Pouliot.

 

[Pip]

Yeah, just like Pouliot.

If only Olli had played for Portland

 

[Knight53]

6th in overall d-men scoring in the AHL

Tied for 2nd in all rookie scoring in the AHL

1st overall in rookie d-men scoring in the AHL (2nd overall in Pts/G)

lmao

 

[Bleach Clean]

If only Olli had played for Portland

I guess that's the only shield for being atrocious in your own zone. Olli is screwed.

 

[Knight53]

that patience, that elegance

 

[Pip]

I guess that's the only shield for being atrocious in your own zone. Olli is screwed.

The leash that Pouliot has is absolutely mind boggling. He doesn't contribute much offensively to make up for his poor defensive work (in the "details" and tons of glaring mistakes). I almost want to believe that it's a bias towards the Portland days and not that Green is this bad at evaluating defensemen. It's far worse than Willie with Vey.

 

[Motte and Bailey]

Same as Pettersson except on defense.. wait for him to gain 30-40 pounds and he will be an absolute monster top pairing NHL defense man

 

[RobertKron]

Same as Pettersson except on defense.. wait for him to gain 30-40 pounds and he will be an absolute monster top pairing NHL defense man

Lol

 

[WetcoastOrca]

Looks like he has a knack for finding the open man on the PP. Really looks like the QB of the power play based on what I’ve seen. Good offensive instincts.
Still looks to be struggling a bit defensively so this should be a good learning year for him.

 

[PuckMunchkin]

Lol

Yeah.... Oh boy.

 

[Pip]

Same as Pettersson except on defense.. wait for him to gain 30-40 pounds and he will be an absolute monster top pairing NHL defense man

I know EP40 is going through a slump but comparing him to Juolevi is going a bit far imo. I’m sure he’ll rebound soon.

 

[vanarchy]

I like the logic of not disturbing his AHL progress. I don't care who we call up in the future but let Juolevi do what he's doing over there and then reassess everything next summer.

 

[canucks20]

The thing that worries me about Juolevi is his pivot foot. It's just so slow. His battling is extremely weak but hopefully can improve.

 

[VancouverJagger]

If Virtanen continues on with his solid season and puts up 20 + are people going to clue in that mayyyyyybbbbbe.........just maybe OJ might turn into something decent eventually? How many people will be honest and look in the mirror and say they had written Jake off?

I'm sure people can take all sorts of lessons from Jake if they want to but for me the big one is that success is not linear..........We still don't know what OJ will turn into but if Jake's season holds up (which i tend to think it will - he's playing really well and looks to have turned a corner) we should all exercise a little bit more patience here. If you really are a fan you should be hoping that OJ makes that leap - so it wasn't as quick as we would like - at this point I don't care if he isn't good for another 2-3 years - as long as he does end up good. #mytwocents

 

[PM]

Same as Pettersson except on defense.. wait for him to gain 30-40 pounds and he will be an absolute monster top pairing NHL defense man

You know he already weighs almost 200 pounds right?

 

[Svencouver]

If Virtanen continues on with his solid season and puts up 20 + are people going to clue in that mayyyyyybbbbbe.........just maybe OJ might turn into something decent eventually? How many people will be honest and look in the mirror and say they had written Jake off?

I'm sure people can take all sorts of lessons from Jake if they want to but for me the big one is that success is not linear..........We still don't know what OJ will turn into but if Jake's season holds up (which i tend to think it will - he's playing really well and looks to have turned a corner) we should all exercise a little bit more patience here. If you really are a fan you should be hoping that OJ makes that leap - so it wasn't as quick as we would like - at this point I don't care if he isn't good for another 2-3 years - as long as he does end up good. #mytwocents

If we can teach Jake defensive responsibility then at this point I believe in anyone's capability to improve defensively

 

[Canadian Canuck]

Can’t wait until people eat crow. He’s going to be a solid top 4 dman for years to come.

 

[Motte and Bailey]

If Virtanen continues on with his solid season and puts up 20 + are people going to clue in that mayyyyyybbbbbe.........just maybe OJ might turn into something decent eventually? How many people will be honest and look in the mirror and say they had written Jake off?

I'm sure people can take all sorts of lessons from Jake if they want to but for me the big one is that success is not linear..........We still don't know what OJ will turn into but if Jake's season holds up (which i tend to think it will - he's playing really well and looks to have turned a corner) we should all exercise a little bit more patience here. If you really are a fan you should be hoping that OJ makes that leap - so it wasn't as quick as we would like - at this point I don't care if he isn't good for another 2-3 years - as long as he does end up good. #mytwocents

Well, Actually, I mean... I wrote Jake off after his d+1 season but it was still the correct thing to do at the time because Jake is what analyticists call a statistical outlier and, as an analyticologist I'm always correct.

You know he already weighs almost 200 pounds right?

Wow you're right, he's listed on NHL.com as 198 pounds. Maybe that's not all the *correct* type of weight because I see him with a lot of room to grow strength-wise. I had him pegged at 185. Still the point remains that after 5 or so years of strength training he will be a much more effective player and "in his prime" so to speak.

 

[Motte and Bailey]

The thing that worries me about Juolevi is his pivot foot. It's just so slow. His battling is extremely weak but hopefully can improve.

Is anyone familiar with the biomechanics of this? Lot of players have great top end speed once they get going but are still considered poor skaters overall because they might not be good at acceleration or making quick turns or quick stops and starts which is very important for a defenseman when they are trying to defend the net down low.

Is it a matter of "this player is genetically going to have a lower potential in the category of edgework" or "this player needs to work a lot harder on his edgework and as soon as he's finished doing that he can be good at it" because this will be incredibly important when projecting what kind of career Juolevi will have.

 

[ProstheticConscience]

Can’t wait until people eat crow. He’s going to be a solid top 4 dman for years to come.

We've never seen that before on this board. Nope. Never.

 

[DL44]

that patience, that elegance

Wow he looks good in that clip... so smooth and fluid.


First 3 games back on North American ice as a Pro:
1a, -6

Since then:
13 games, 12 pts, -5

6pts in his last 4....

He's figuring it out nicely offensively...
Progression!
-5 over 13gms in a top pairing match up role does not seem bad... but needs further context.. (actual usage, role, teammates, etc)

Can't wait to see him for myself.
Excited about this kid.

 

[Var]

It is an old saying. However It is also a myth.

Hockey metrics: Measuring when and why NHL players peak | CBC News

 

[Melvin]

I am almost tempted to log out to see the post you guys are on about.

Almost. But no.