Proposal: Oliver Ekman-Larsson

[RABBIT]

More recent interviews (that one's from early March) have OEL and Tocchett completely rectifying their rocky start. Said they are pretty close now. Very strong chance OEL re-signs this summer accompanied by the captaincy.

 

[RABBIT]

I love how many people are actually trying to prop OEL up as a legit #1 defenseman. He's not.

I think you just haven't seen one in a while. He is.

 

[IPreferPi]

I love how many people are actually trying to prop OEL up as a legit #1 defenseman. He's not.

What would the Oilers know about having a legit 1D?

 

[Vancouver Canucks]

No, no.

 

[Alberta Yote]

What would the Oilers know about having a legit 1D?

They had Pronger

 

[Mighty Makar]

I love how many people are actually trying to prop OEL up as a legit #1 defenseman. He's not.

He is.

 

[IPreferPi]

They had Pronger

Like 12 years ago.

 

[GOilers88]

You honestly think he's in the same tier as Doughty, Karlsson, Josi, Pietro, Hedman?

 

[ThomasG]

You honestly think he's in the same tier as Doughty, Karlsson, Josi, Pietro, Hedman?

Those are high-end elite/franchise defensemen, you don't have to be one of those 5 defensemen to be a 1D. It's like saying barkov isn't a 1C because he's not as good as Malkin McDavid or Crosby

 

[go4hockey]

Oilers would be trading the Strome, not AZ.

OEL
for
Sekera, 2018 1st, Strome, Conditional 1st (2nd if he doesn't resign)

Still pretty bad for Arizona. They would clearly say no.

 

[go4hockey]

I love how many people are actually trying to prop OEL up as a legit #1 defenseman. He's not.

Try watching him play beside the hand full off times he plays your team. He is clearly a #1 and would easily be your best defenseman if you were lucky enough to land him in s deal.

 

[Deam78]

With a verbal agreement to re-sign at a minimum it would be Klef+Puljujarvi+ 2018 1st just for OEL there wouldn't be another piece added to OEL and even then I don;t think the Coyotes bite.

Basically this. With verbal agreement it's as good as a sign and trade, and the price to pay for OEL in a sign and trade is probably close to what you offered, but no way Arizona adds something on top of that. Especially a young talent like Domi.

 

[IPreferPi]

You honestly think he's in the same tier as Doughty, Karlsson, Josi, Pietro, Hedman?

Not being a top five D in the entire league does not mean you aren't a 1D. Furthermore, OEL's possession numbers and P/60 at even strength are not too far off from those guys, and he usually sees more defensive zone starts to boot than most of them, in addition to having inferior QoT.

 

[cobra427]

You honestly think he's in the same tier as Doughty, Karlsson, Josi, Pietro, Hedman?

OEL is very close. He might not be top 5 but he is top 15 for sure. keep in mind his crappy team, this years D partner Jason Demers, last years D partner Connor Murphy, and the year before that world beater ZM. The Oilers don't have a D in the top 40.

 

[Captain Controversy]

I would easily offer 10th overall + Strome + Ethan bear for an unsigned oel

 

[steveat]

What are Arizona's needs? Instead of throwing good prospects or players, how about offering something they value?

 

[The Madrigal]

OEL looked great playing with Adam Larsson yesterday in the Worlds, and would make a great addition to the Oilers blue line. Is this fair?

Oscar Klefbom, Jesse Puljujarvi, 2018 1st

Oliver Ekman-Larsson (Verbal agreement to re-sign), Max Domi

Seems like a very fair deal to me. Arizona fans will probably think they should get more for OEL but pretty much everyone on this site over values their players.

 

[IPreferPi]

Seems like a very fair deal to me. Arizona fans will probably think they should get more for OEL but pretty much everyone on this site over values their players.

If you took out Domi it'd be closer although you'd still be hard pressed to find anyone who would have interest in saying yes. Especially since we expect to be playoff competitive within the next few seasons and trading our 1D without ensuring we have a 1D coming back would derail all that.

 

[The Madrigal]

If you took out Domi it'd be closer although you'd still be hard pressed to find anyone who would have interest in saying yes. Especially since we expect to be playoff competitive over the next few seasons and trading our 1D without ensuring we have a 1D coming back would derail all that.

Domi's value isn't exactly at a high point right now. The way I see it Domi for Pool Party is more or less a fair swap although maybe in Arizona's favor a little bit. That means Arizona is getting Klefbom and 10th overall for OEL. Maybe Edmonton would have to add a little bit but relative to most offers on this board it's pretty close. If Domi was taken out of the deal that's a steal for Arizona.

 

[Alberta Yote]

Like 12 years ago.

that was my sarcastic point actually

What are Arizona's needs? Instead of throwing good prospects or players, how about offering something they value?

OEL signed for 8 years is their need. They can’t keep re-setting the rebuild.

 

[WingsOverAvs]

I just wanna see OEL play for a real team in a real hockey market, wherever that might be

 

[IPreferPi]

Domi's value isn't exactly at a high point right now. The way I see it Domi for Pool Party is more or less a fair swap although maybe in Arizona's favor a little bit. That means Arizona is getting Klefbom and 10th overall for OEL. Maybe Edmonton would have to add a little bit but relative to most offers on this board it's pretty close. If Domi was taken out of the deal that's a steal for Arizona.

Exactly, Domi's trade value isn't high, so why would we sell low on him? Especially after he finished the season with 23 points in the last 28 games and 15 in the last 14? We need skilled young players at all positions under cost control and he will continue to be one of those for the next few seasons. I expect Domi to rebound next year being a 50 point winger, potentially more.

We flipped Yandle when he had one year left on his contract for a first, Duclair, a 2nd, and John Moore. Given that OEL is a legitimate two-way 1D, we should be able to return better than that if he were on the block, especially if he's going to a division rival (and he's not).

 

[Draiskull]

I just wanna see OEL play for a real team in a real hockey market, wherever that might be

why? Do you want the same from players playing for Panthers?

 

[WingsOverAvs]

why? Do you want the same from players playing for Panthers?

I dont like seeing any elite level talent wasting away anywhere. Florida is a horribly run organization as well. No real surprise 3 former employees are flourishing in Vegas

 

[The Madrigal]

Exactly, Domi's trade value isn't high, so why would we sell low on him? Especially after he finished the season with 23 points in the last 28 games and 15 in the last 14? We need skilled young players at all positions under cost control and he will continue to be one of those for the next few seasons. I expect Domi to rebound next year being a 50 point winger, potentially more.

We flipped Yandle when he had one year left on his contract for a first, Duclair, a 2nd, and John Moore. Given that OEL is a legitimate two-way 1D, we should be able to return better than that if he were on the block, especially if he's going to a division rival (and he's not).

One trade doesn't always equal another trade being better or worse. Trades aren't made in a vacuum. Either way, the 10th overall pick is worth a lot more than the late first Arizona got from the Rangers for Yandle. Pool party is worth a lot more than Duclair was, and Klefbom is an already established second pairing D who has more value than a 2nd and a mid level prospect like Moore who was already going to his 3rd organization. Adding Domi changes the dynamic significantly but the other pieces involved are far more valuable than what went in the Yandle trade.