Proposal: Oilers-Ducks

[WhatTheDuck]

Lindholm
for
Draisaitl

Closer but to consider moving Lindholm it would take a young C who has likewise proven to be top 15 at his position. Draisaitl isn't quite there, and the difference in contracts is an extra reason to prefer Lindholm.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

It would also be a no from the Ducks. They are not trading a young stud D man for a grossly overpaid player.

He’s not grossly overpaid, just a little overpaid, and he’d be your 1C anyway, so zip it.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Closer but to consider moving Lindholm it would take a young C who has likewise proven to be top 15 at his position. Draisaitl isn't quite there, and the difference in contracts is an extra reason to prefer Lindholm.

Lindholm is not a top 15 defenceman, though.

 

[Spazkat]

He’s not grossly overpaid, just a little overpaid, and he’d be your 1C anyway, so zip it.

Over Getzlaf? I think not

 

[WhatTheDuck]

Lindholm is not a top 15 defenceman, though.

I think the consensus opinion would put him in right in that range, your personal list may differ.

 

[Static]

He’s not grossly overpaid, just a little overpaid, and he’d be your 1C anyway, so zip it.

Yikes.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

Over Getzlaf? I think not

Yikes.

The comment was directed at a Flames fan.

 

[Static]

That makes more sense.

 

[lwvs84]

He’s not grossly overpaid, just a little overpaid, and he’d be your 1C anyway, so zip it.

I actually agree with this and I think it's pretty much what I said when he signed his contract. Drai was going to be slightly overpaid for a few years, worth it for a couple, then slightly underpaid for the rest. Lindholm will be a bargain for his whole contract, though. I would want to see how he handles being a 1C before labeling him an elite 1C (assuming he still plays on McDavid's wing). Otherwise, he's an elite 2C/ elite 1st line winger (definitely not a bad thing)

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Over Getzlaf? I think not

Dude was a Calgary fan. Over Monahan.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Nurse & RNH for Hampus Lindholm.

Thoughts? What can either side add to make it work?

Bob Murray blocks all calls from Peter Chiarelli, Not even close dude. Get real here.

 

[dracom]

I think Lindholm is definitely a #1D. He's a #1D on most teams and a top pairing D on arguably every team. He's just not a "franchise D" like Doughty or Karlsson.

That's fair, I guess people have different definitions of #1D.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

So, RNH & Nurse doesn't work? That's a lot going to Anaheim.

Not for Hampus Lindholm it sure doesn't, Not even close to fair value for Anaheim.

 

[imjustzach]

That's fair, I guess people have different definitions of #1D.

I'm assuming when you said "#1D" you meant what I mean when I say "Franchise D". I don't think we disagree about Lindholm. Just semantics.

 

[Spazkat]

Dude was a Calgary fan. Over Monahan.

The comment was directed at a Flames fan.

my bad!

 

[bsu]

... pfhahahahaha





You knowledgeable Duck fan you .....

Yes I should take oiler fans bear+nurse for Lindholm serious.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Lindholm
for
Draisaitl

Is probably close to fair deal.. but as long as Getzlaf is still a productive 1c, no point in making that move.

Plus I imagine eventually fowler will be the guy traded for center help if Larsson/mahura pan out because hes a little older/expensive and doesn't impact that game as much as Lindholm does.

 

[Paul4587]

Larsson instead of Nurse or Bouchard instead of Bear might make the value closer but why would the Ducks trade Lindholm?

Larsson is less appealing than Nurse but neither is close to enough coming back alongside RNH to justify moving Hampus.

I will echo others in the thread who say it would take Draisaital coming back for us to move him to a divisional rival.

 

[Flamesjustwin]

He’s not grossly overpaid, just a little overpaid, and he’d be your 1C anyway, so zip it.

No he wouldn't. Monahan>Draisaitl every day.

 

[Paul4587]

I have a legitimate question for Ducks fans, if Lindholm is a bonafide 1d how is his career high only 34 points?

He did just play at a 15 goal, 37 point pace.

The main reason for his lack of production is a lack of PP opportunities and that he hasn’t quite put it all together in terms of offensive consistency . If he was on the first unit he would probably produce in the 40-45 point range but unfortunately he’s not getting that PP time yet.

As for how he is a bonafide number 1D without huge production - he’s that good defensively. Although it depends what your definition of bonafide 1D is. I have him in the 15-20 range, nowhere near your Doughtys, Hedmans or Karlssons of the world but he would certainly be a 1D on around half the teams league wide.

 

[BAM]

Closer but to consider moving Lindholm it would take a young C who has likewise proven to be top 15 at his position. Draisaitl isn't quite there, and the difference in contracts is an extra reason to prefer Lindholm.

You're not getting a top 15 C for Lindholm IMO. I dunno any team that has one that would trade them for Lindholm. I think Draisaitl is fair value for Lindholm. Having Getzlaf and Draisaitl down the middle would be pretty good.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

No he wouldn't. Monahan>Draisaitl every day.

Not on this day or any other. Draisaitl >> Monahan.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

You're not getting a top 15 C for Lindholm IMO. I dunno any team that has one that would trade them for Lindholm. I think Draisaitl is fair value for Lindholm. Having Getzlaf and Draisaitl down the middle would be pretty good.

That's what it would take to pry him away, there's no expectation or desire to move Lindholm.

 

[BAM]

That's what it would take to pry him away, there's no expectation or desire to move Lindholm.

That's cool, I just don't think that's his value.

 

[McFlash97]

It wasn't a knock against Draisaitl, not sure why you're arguing about it really. But if you're trying to value a defensive-defenseman based on offense only.. then you, my friend, are doing it wrong.

Personally, I value a high end defenseman over a high end winger. I just think they are more valuable to a team and harder to acquire.

Another knowledgable Duck fan or is it the same one... . Drai is a Center.. Hockey must be a big sport down in Anahiem......