Speculation: Offseason Thread III: ideas, proposals, general roster discussion

[GeorgeReznik1]

He was willing to take the qualifying offer at a little over 700 thousand. That's quite a bit less than what he wanted.

Nope. Theres no truth to that at all.

 

[Monstershockey]

Nope. Theres no truth to that at all.

Based on what?

 

[CBJWerenski8]

Based on what?

He calls out everyone else for not backing up their claims but never backs up his own.

 

[majormajor]

I kept digging and this is the closest I could find to George's "$6m+" claim, and it's not close.

From Porty, passed on by Elliotte Friedman, Sept 28th, 2017.

"Anderson is a restricted free agent. On Tuesday, The Athletic’s Aaron Portzline reported the team and player were “as little as $150,000 per year (apart) on a three-year contract — but both sides are standing firm on principle.”" 150k above the Blue Jackets offer is still only $2m. It's what you'd expect for a 17 goal scorer coming off an ELC, not some outlandish prima donna request like $6m+ where you would question if the player is delusional.

 

[GeorgeReznik1]

Based on what?

Source ?

 

[GeorgeReznik1]

He calls out everyone else for not backing up their claims but never backs up his own.

And yet no one can actually prove me wrong.

Pretty weird.

 

[GeorgeReznik1]

I kept digging and this is the closest I could find to George's "$6m+" claim, and it's not close.

From Porty, passed on by Elliotte Friedman, Sept 28th, 2017.

"Anderson is a restricted free agent. On Tuesday, The Athletic’s Aaron Portzline reported the team and player were “as little as $150,000 per year (apart) on a three-year contract — but both sides are standing firm on principle.”" 150k above the Blue Jackets offer is still only $2m. It's what you'd expect for a 17 goal scorer coming off an ELC, not some outlandish prima donna request like $6m+ where you would question if the player is delusional.

No proof of Jarmos demands. No proof of playing for peanuts.

How strange.

 

[Iron Balls McGinty]

Now why you gotta do Boone Jenner dirty like that lol

Anderson's career high is 27 goals (he played all 82 games that season). Are we just...rounding up?

Of course. I’ll also point out that Panarin never scored 30 goals in a CBJ uniform. Arguably the greatest talent to actually wear a CBJ uniform and he didn’t score 30 here.

And Duchene put up 30 exactly 1 time 5 years ago in an Avalanche uniform and only was essentially in Columbus barely long enough to spend the night on a road trip to Nashville.

 

[Monstershockey]

Source ?

Try google. Its not hard to find. You seem to have typing skills, maybe you can research things for yourself.

 

[GeorgeReznik1]

Try google. Its not hard to find. You seem to have typing skills, maybe you can research things for yourself.

Thanks for proving it's made up, like I said all along.

 

[GeorgeReznik1]

Of course. I’ll also point out that Panarin never scored 30 goals in a CBJ uniform. Arguably the greatest talent to actually wear a CBJ uniform and he didn’t score 30 here.

And Duchene put up 30 exactly 1 time 5 years ago in an Avalanche uniform and only was essentially in Columbus barely long enough to spend the night on a road trip to Nashville.

And ?

 

[Monstershockey]

Thanks for proving it's made up, like I said all along.

It literally took me less than a minute to find this. You remind me of another person who started posting in the playoffs, had the same attitude and lack of knowledge. He (or she) lasted 16 days. Your posts read exactly like theirs.

 

[GeorgeReznik1]

It literally took me less than a minute to find this. You remind me of another person who started posting in the playoffs, had the same attitude and lack of knowledge. He (or she) lasted 16 days. Your posts read exactly like theirs.

Still no source or proof. How weird.

 

[Monstershockey]

Still no source or proof. How weird.

Columbus Blue Jackets: Josh Anderson Contract Negotiations Update

 

[GeorgeReznik1]

Columbus Blue Jackets: Josh Anderson Contract Negotiations Update

That's strange how that doesn't support it at all.

I thought it took you less than a minute to find this supposes source ?

 

[Monstershockey]

That's strange how that doesn't support it at all.

I thought it took you less than a minute to find this supposes source ?

Well, still haven't seen your source.

 

[GeorgeReznik1]

Well, still haven't seen your source.

Essentially, the qualifying offer has been expired for over two months according to McKenzie. The most similar option to that would be signing a one-year deal at the salary laid out by the qualifying offer, however it seems like that ship has sailed at this point.

I find it quite convenient you never read this part of your article. Weird how he was so willing and all for signing for peanuts until he wasn't.

 

[DarkandStormy]

Josh was NEVER willing to play for Peanuts. He was DEMANDING 6+ plus long term or nothing at all at the time. He felt he was the franchise golden boy that should be paid handsomely, he had proved absolutely nothing to that point besides a fluke season.

 

[Monstershockey]

The ship had sailed from CBJ's point of veiw. They weren't going to offer him a one year deal. He still would have taken the one year deal because he wanted arbitration. Had you kept reading it says his camp wanted a one year deal or higher 3 year deal. No where does it say he wanted 6 mil. per year. Still waiting for your source on that.

 

[koteka]

I'll start freaking out about PLD on Monday.

Dubois is represented by Pat Brisson, who happens to also represent Zach Werenski. Z signed three days before camp in 2019. No one mentions that contract negotiation as being contentious.

Brisson also represents Seth Jones, Alex Wennberg, Jack Johnson, Steffan Matteau, and several other former Jackets. None of them are in the group of "things going sour." Some were late - Wennberg signed Sept. 1st coming off his ELC.

The PLD thing now that I've looked into it seems like Porty stirring the pot more than anything. He notes there's nothing new to report, it's expected to get done, and PLD has been practicing with teammates in Columbus. Yawn.

Not to get into another Porty argument, but if he said:

“Negotiations are fine with PLD. His camp is waiting to see what Barzal gets. Barzal is waiting to see what PLD gets. Both will be signed and in camp, but not until right before camp starts. Because this is how the game is played.”

that doesn’t get him many clicks and people won’t be waiting for his next update. So he adds some drama. And people are waiting to see what Porty says next.

 

[GeorgeReznik1]

Source ?

 

[GeorgeReznik1]

The ship had sailed from CBJ's point of veiw. They weren't going to offer him a one year deal. He still would have taken the one year deal because he wanted arbitration. Had you kept reading it says his camp wanted a one year deal or higher 3 year deal. No where does it say he wanted 6 mil. per year. Still waiting for your source on that.

Come on man, even your own sourced link says youre wrong. You really can't be serious.

No where does it say he would sign for peanuts but here we are people regurgitating that bullshit.

 

[Iron Balls McGinty]

Not to get into another Porty argument, but if he said:

“Negotiations are fine with PLD. His camp is waiting to see what Barzal gets. Barzal is waiting to see what PLD gets. Both will be signed and in camp, but not until right before camp starts. Because this is how the game is played.”

that doesn’t get him many clicks and people won’t be waiting for his next update. So he adds some drama. And people are waiting to see what Porty says next.

I don't recall anyone ever actually stating they were going to wait and see what Barzal gets. It is just merely speculation among people here because they are semi comparable players. He had 85 points 3 years ago but right around 60 in the 2 years since. It would only make sense that their contracts would be similar. If there is a stalemate between the sides in negotiation they could then look at the other's contract for whoever signs first to use as the comparable.

I don't recall him ever bringing it up and Barzal's name certainly isn't mentioned in the latest article.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

Jack Roslovic in a CBJ sweater? I’d be ok with that but the problem with the roster is too many guys for for certain roles and not enough guys for others and Jack is the former.

 

[MoeBartoli]

I’m glad to see this lengthy debate taking place. It’s not that I have anything to contribute, rather it’s that it blunted the conversation about bringing Jack Roslovic here to fill a badly needed (cough, cough) bottom six role.