Speculation: Offseason Free Agency thread

[Sterling Archer]

Chuky would be a welcomed addition He can skate score and check.

Chucky doesn’t bring more offence than anyone in our top 6 nor is he more defensively responsibility than anyone in the bottom 6. He’s a fringe NHLer at this point and isn’t a PMD or mid 6 center. In other words, he brings absolutely nothing to the Habs that we need.

 

[salbutera]

Chucky doesn’t bring more offence than anyone in our top 6 nor is he more defensively responsibility than anyone in the bottom 6. He’s a fringe NHLer at this point and isn’t a PMD or mid 6 center. In other words, he brings absolutely nothing to the Habs that we need.

Oh yeah but who else can do this? Huh huh tell me!

 

[Sterling Archer]

Oh yeah but who else can do this? Huh huh tell me!

Good ol’ Brandon Prust

 

[GobigorGohome]

Most disagree. I seem to remember pucks going into the Habs net against Tampa after clean face off losses.

That would be a Goaltending issue

 

[le_sean]

Tatar, that was tough.

The guy that was benched for Lehkonen and Jake Evans?

Imagine getting 61 points in 68 games in the regular season the year before but then come playoff time the team says “Nah, we’d rather go with the 13 point rookie.” Yeah, much better player.

You should also take a look at how Hoffman has outscored Tatar the last three years.

 

[BehindTheTimes]

The guy that was benched for Lehkonen and Jake Evans?

Imagine getting 61 points in 68 games in the regular season the year before but then come playoff time the team says “Nah, we’d rather go with the 13 point rookie.” Yeah, much better player.

You should also take a look at how Hoffman has outscored Tatar the last three years.

You mean the same coaching staff that benched Romanov in favour of Gus/Merrill, forgive me for not assigning any weight to that decision. Your appeal to authority doesn’t change the fact that Tatar is a better hockey player and does everything better, except shoot and when I say everything, I mean everything.

 

[le_sean]

You mean the same coaching staff that benched Romanov in favour of Gus/Merrill, forgive me for not assigning any weight to that decision. Your appeal to authority doesn’t change the fact that Tatar is a better hockey player and does everything better, except shoot and when I say everything, I mean everything.

Guess the Vegas coaching staff is stupid too. Or maybe it’s the fact Tatar has 12 points in 40 playoff games. Think about that a second. An offensive player contributing a total of 12 points in half a season worth of games. He’s brutal. He’s soft and slow. At the very least Hoffman can score from anywhere and is fast.

 

[Skip Bayless]

Oh yeah but who else can do this? Huh huh tell me!

I don't think Chucky ever recovered from that one

 

[JianYang]

what I said

losing faceoffs in our zone was bad in the playoffs, this has not been addressed

The faceoff situation can be improved for sure, but the reason it stuck out so bad was because of the number of times those losses just happened to end up in the back of the net, or turn into great scoring chances especially in the last two rounds.

The bigger weakness than faceoffs was the way the habs were reacting to lost draws than the losses themselves.

 

[Belial]

The faceoff situation can be improved for sure, but the reason it stuck out so bad was because of the number of times those losses just happened to end up in the back of the net, or turn into great scoring chances especially in the last two rounds.

The bigger weakness than faceoffs was the way the habs were reacting to lost draws than the losses themselves.

Yeah, the kids need to learn to not lose them cleanly when they lose them.

 

[CHfan1]

Yeah, the kids need to learn to not lose them cleanly when they lose them.

It’s not just losing them, it’s how they defend the play afterwards. There were too many plays where the opposition got a great scoring chance (or goal) because they left an open player or open passing lane.

Even when they did win the faceoffs cleanly too many times they’d ring around the boards only to be kept in and they are back defending.

I also think as the young centres get more experience they’ll improve on the dot.

 

[Belial]

It’s not just losing them, it’s how they defend the play afterwards. There were too many plays where the opposition got a great scoring chance (or goal) because they left an open player or open passing lane.

Even when they did win the faceoffs cleanly too many times they’d ring around the boards only to be kept in and they are back defending.

I also think as the young centres get more experience they’ll improve on the dot.

That's what I said, they have to learn to NOT lose FO's cleanly...

When you lose it cleanly the other players on the ice don't really have time to react to the play, it goes D to D and a high danger one-timer shot on the net.

But yeah being good on FO's comes with experience and you can actually learn the tendencies of your opponent when you face him over and over during your career.

 

[CHfan1]

That's what I said, they have to learn to NOT lose FO's cleanly...

When you lose it cleanly the other players on the ice don't really have time to react to the play, it goes D to D and a high danger one-timer shot on the net.

But yeah being good on FO's comes with experience and you can actually learn the tendencies of your opponent when you face him over and over during your career.

It’s just not about losing faceoffs cleanly (of course you’re right they have to get better and limit those, less icings would help too). Clean faceoff wins shouldn’t result in the amount of scoring chances the opposition got in the playoffs. They need to learn to defend better when that happens. Close off passing lanes, don’t leave an open man.

Like Mike Johnson stated in the Vegas series the left winger could have taken the passing lane away for a set play to Pietrangelo. Anyways with a full training call for Ducharme I expect things like that to get better as the season goes along.

 

[GobigorGohome]

Get Chucky Back ASAP

 

[Belial]

It’s just not about losing faceoffs cleanly (of course you’re right they have to get better and limit those, less icings would help too). Clean faceoff wins shouldn’t result in the amount of scoring chances the opposition got in the playoffs. They need to learn to defend better when that happens. Close off passing lanes, don’t leave an open man.

Like Mike Johnson stated in the Vegas series the left winger could have taken the passing lane away for a set play to Pietrangelo. Anyways with a full training call for Ducharme I expect things like that to get better as the season goes along.

They seemed to manage to clean it up somewhat as that Vegas series advanced and against Tampa it was not that bad.

But of course, it was extremely frustrating watching the same damn play working for Vegas over and over again.

Their forwards were completely neutered, almost all their offensive production came from their D.

 

[Sterling Archer]

Get Chucky Back ASAP

But whhhhhhyyyyyyyy??????????

 

[The Great Weal]

Get Chucky Back ASAP

I'd take him for Laval but not on the Habs

 

[Belial]

Get Chucky Back ASAP

The only thing Chucky can do effectively on the ice is one time the puck on the PP from the right circle and we already signed Hoffman to do exactly that, you could actually argue that Hoffman is the next evolution of Galchenyuk.

 

[BLONG7]

That would be a Goaltending issue

LOL...........no it's a C losing the draw clean issue!! LOL

 

[BLONG7]

Yeah, the kids need to learn to not lose them cleanly when they lose them.

It wasn't just the kids...........Pizza Phil lost draws in the Dzone also....
Suzuki for me, seemed to at times, be real bad in the circle...real bad. Love his game, but needs to get better with time, quickly, hopefully.

 

[sampollock]

It wasn't just the kids...........Pizza Phil lost draws in the Dzone also....
Suzuki for me, seemed to at times, be real bad in the circle...real bad. Love his game, but needs to get better with time, quickly, hopefully.

losing faceoffs was just as bad as the pp

 

[Habs Halifax]

It wasn't just the kids...........Pizza Phil lost draws in the Dzone also....
Suzuki for me, seemed to at times, be real bad in the circle...real bad. Love his game, but needs to get better with time, quickly, hopefully.

Over the last two seasons, Danault has had 955 defensive zone faceoffs with a 49.3 winning %. His % is lower than some of the guys with similar usage. Solid numbers for Danault but he's not elite level on faceoffs. I would say above average ish... in that area of the game. Below are entire NHL and Habs stats.... over the last two seasons.

 

[1909]

I'd take him for Laval but not on the Habs

The guy is too good for AHL level and not enough consistent at NHL level..... KHL is the answer for him. At least, he doesn't have to learn the language.

 

[1909]

Over the last two seasons, Danault has had 955 defensive zone faceoffs with a 49.3 winning %. His % is lower than some of the guys with similar usage. Solid numbers for Danault but he's not elite level on faceoffs. I would say above average ish... in that area of the game. I showed but entire NHL and Habs stats.... over the last two seasons.

Luke Glendenning would had been a really good signing....

 

[ZUKI]

Good to know we are still on the Danault case in here

Dude thinks hes a top 6 center and deserves powerplay minutes , little does he know the kids in LA are about to put him back in the third line a year or 2.

The only thing I remember about Danault is during game 6 OT against Toronto. Lost 8 faceoffs in the defensive zone in a row without Tavares playing.

His playstyle in a nutshell.

Danault's signed with L.A. but you still come here to bash him . Haineux vont hainer