If we were not stuck with an internal budget, Greenings contract would be fine. He works hard every game. But since we have the budget everyone jumps on him like he was making 6M a season.
Funny how crappy Spezza is but the haters have him being traded for the moon.
You were all over that signing last summer. You kept going on about how expensive he was going to be and when Murray locked him up you praised the deal as being less than what you expected.
So, of all people people on this board, you should know what the rush was - get him locked up at a good rate before he possibly became too expensive as a UFA. It was a good move by Murray - you said so at the time - and it's ridiculous to revise that assessment with the advantage of hindsight.
The problem wasn't the signing, it's been Greening's regression since the signing.
Ottawa is not "stuck" with anything, if there is amove that will make the team better they will do it, even if it means buying out/trading Greening.
Yeah our pro-scouting department should have totally anticipated that Colin Greening would regress to the worst numbers of his career the very next year after he signs his contract.
The guy went from 17 goals in 2011-12 to 17 points this year. How the **** does anyone expect that to happen or to make sense?
In the playoffs when the Ducks won the cup
McDonald: 21-10-14
Getzlaf: 21-7-17
Those numbers should be attainable for Turris and Zibanejad
What made the Ducks special was the elite checking center that was Samuel Pahlsson.
14:08ES 3rd (Selanne at 14:47ES 1st)
5:05SH
Anderson and Spezza are not comparable to Greening. The sample size difference is huge.Fuhr, did you like the Greening signing when it happened? Yes or No?
Are you suggesting that BM shouldn't look to sign Ryan or Spezza or Anderson - I mean he has a year to evaluate whether they regress or not? Oh no, what he can do is watch how they progress next year then time travel back a year and sign them to a contract based on what they'll do in that one year.
I wonder what you'll say about Greenings contract if he goes on to score 20 next year...I guess we'll be waiting on the edge of our seats...
Don Maloney for GM
Forgive me but where are the rumours that Spezza has asked for a trade (with 4 games left in the regular season) posted/coming from?
Fuhr, did you like the Greening signing when it happened? Yes or No?
Are you suggesting that BM shouldn't look to sign Ryan or Spezza or Anderson - I mean he has a year to evaluate whether they regress or not? Oh no, what he can do is watch how they progress next year then time travel back a year and sign them to a contract based on what they'll do in that one year.
I wonder what you'll say about Greenings contract if he goes on to score 20 next year...I guess we'll be waiting on the edge of our seats...
Don Maloney for GM
In the playoffs when the Ducks won the cup
McDonald: 21-10-14
Getzlaf: 21-7-17
Those numbers should be attainable for Turris and Zibanejad
What made the Ducks special was the elite checking center that was Samuel Pahlsson.
14:08ES 3rd (Selanne at 14:47ES 1st)
5:05SH
That only works if you've got the Ducks depth.
Do we have a 3rd line centre that could score 21-3-9 while playing elite defence like Pahlsson did?
Do we have wingers who can score
Perry 21-6-9
Selanne 21-5-10
Moen 21-7-5
Niedermayer 21-5-5
What about defencemen that can score
Pronger 19-3-12 (Ok Karlsson could probably do this)
Niedermayer 21-3-8
We don't have those guys this is not a legit comparison.
This team had 9 guys with 10+ points in other words 9 guys who were above or very near .5 ppg.
We've got 5 this year including Spezza. Our overall depth needs a major overhaul or amazing development if we're going to win a cup with Turris and Zibanejad as our top 2 centers.
It was on Senschirp yesterday and E. Friedman alluded to such as well.
http://senschirp.ca/news/clock-ticking-jason-spezza/
If Spezza is traded, the return better be so mindblowing that to not have made the trade would have been insanity. Can't imagine many scenarios where the Senators trade Spezza and get better. Despite what the many delusional Spezza haters have to say.
Ottawa could not even afford the rest of Hemskys contract so they gave the Oilers a 5th to eat half (Potentially a Stone, Pageu with Sens scouts)
What makes you think the Sens have money?