Confirmed Signing with Link: OEL verbal contract agreement (8.25M * 8 years)

Starat327

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I love the irony of some posters in here saying hes locked in on a crappy team, while most of their own teams are just as bad, and most finished worse than the Yotes this year. Glass houses, people.

These people arent robots. They have thoughts and feelings that drive their decisions outside of just hockey, just like you and I.
 

Sniper99

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Ive been hoping for this for a while. Ive now shifted into the ill believe it when i see it group.

Doughty and Kalrsson cant be happy about this deal.

Good for OEL though for not gouging the organization and this will certainly help make them competitive.

At least you've had hope, I've been in the "believe it when I see it group" for a long time. Year after year it seems to be "this young Coyotes team will be really good for years and years" and well it never happened. Is the league paying that contract? or did the owners whoever that is offer it?
 

mouser

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Funny how everyone always **** on everyone contract but OEL at 8M is a good deal, he hits 50pts once, great adavanced stats, of course +/- is a team stats but when you’re suppose to be a advanced stats specialist and good defensively you’d think you wouln’t be -30 every season, he plays on a market with no pressure! It’s obvious he would get paid like this but this whole OEL is underrated is out of proportion just like yandles was, he was exposed as soon as he lef the coyotes, he made the playoffs once and was mehhh. He’s a great dman, but like alot of player he isn’t worth his contract.

Funny how you mention Yandle. Who was #1 among the Panthers Dmen this season in TOI/G, Points, Assists, Even Strength Points, Power Play Points, Short Handed Points. As well as #2 in +/- and Short Handed TOI/G by 1 second.

Yandle in New York was less a case of being exposed, and more some poor use of his skillset by Vigneault.
 

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the point is: AZ is a dead city for a performing Hockey team. why do you think AZ been terrible since their creation ? i have nothing to the people there, but it's a terrible city for hockey

Arizona is a hard place for a terrible hockey team. But when the team performs, the fans respond. I always get a kick out of the perspectives of people who have never been to a game in Arizona, or who base their perspectives on context-deprived photos or footage. When the Coyotes went on their run to the Western Conference Final in 2012, it took about half the season for the fans to be convinced that the team wasn't going to fall flat on its face (again). But once they showed they were for real, the fans responded. You may ask, "Why did they need convincing?" How about two truly good seasons in the space of nearly twenty years?

Having said that, there are only two or three NHL markets in existence right now that would still pack the seats with fans after what the Coyotes franchise has been through over the past decade-plus. The city is a great place for hockey at all levels. What it may not be is a good city for a franchise like the Coyotes, which has been mismanaged by a long, unbroken string of bad actors such as Wayne "Friends of" Gretzky, Jerry "Writeoff For My Trucking Company" Moyes, the incredible conglomeration of small-timers and hustlers known as IceArizona, and even the league itself.

The Coyotes will probably end up moving to Houston or somewhere else. I can't imagine them convincing another Arizona city to provide subsidy handouts like Glendale did. But it should be perfectly clear to anyone with any mental acuity whatsoever that, had Arizona had the benefit of Las Vegas' start (a ticket drive, a well-managed expansion process, and adequate market prep) rather than inheriting a homeless Canadian team that was subsequently kicked around like a deflated soccer ball by everyone involved with it, this team wouldn't be the sad sack that it has been for so long.
 

IPreferPi

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It’s obvious he would get paid like this but this whole OEL is underrated is out of proportion just like yandles was, he was exposed as soon as he lef the coyotes, he made the playoffs once and was mehhh. He’s a great dman, but like alot of player he isn’t worth his contract.

Yandle put up 56 points this season while being utilized as a shutdown D playing on the Panthers' #1 PK unit and starting in the defensive zone 60% of the time at 5v5. Far from being "exposed," he demonstrated that he is far more than a one-dimensional sheltered offensive defenseman like he was derided as during his time as a Coyote. His struggles in New York were pretty clearly a result of whatever inane system Vigenault had in place (that ultimately led to him getting the boot).
 
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stl76

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the point is: AZ is a dead city for a performing Hockey team. why do you think AZ been terrible since their creation ? i have nothing to the people there, but it's a terrible city for hockey
Arizona is a state, not a city. The coyotes made the WCF in 2012.

It's slightly impressive how wrong you've managed to be in less than 40 words.

Congrats to yotes fans on locking up OEL. They have a legit shot to make the playoffs next season if a couple things go their way (Raanta stays healthy, Strome steps in and contributes, OEL bounces back, etc).
 

CantHaveTkachev

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don't blame OEL one bit for signing that contract

-tons of money
-great weather in the winter
-zero pressure to win

I'd be scared to sign long-term though with the threat of relocation always hanging over their heads
 

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I love the irony of some posters in here saying hes locked in on a crappy team, while most of their own teams are just as bad, and most finished worse than the Yotes this year. Glass houses, people.

These people arent robots. They have thoughts and feelings that drive their decisions outside of just hockey, just like you and I.
just because people support a team that is crappy doesn't mean they can't make fun of other teams that are crappy. ridiculous notion
 

H3ckt1k

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Congrats arizona fans, that's awesome for you guys. Hopefully he won't be put in anymore trade offers on this site now haha
 
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Ainec

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great extension by Arizona

however I am hoping OEL sees some playoff action soon
 

Ainec

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ufa OEL will get 9+

and ppl scoffed at Karlsson getting 10+ years ago... well Doughty is getting that and Karlsson will get more
 

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This guy can't possibly care about winning at all. Seems like he just wants to quietly collect his pay checks in anonymity.

That sounds like the rosters of about half of the NHL, including Chicago and Detroit if this past year is any indication. So OEL's in good company. :laugh:
 
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TheBluePenguin

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And some people think Carlson won't sign for 8. Good deal for Arizona, they needed to keep him.

I think OEL is the better player ... unless you meant Karlsson, granted I fully admit I have watched Carlson a lot more than OEL but Carlson reminds me of a slightly better Shattenkirk
 

duxfan1101

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OEL is a very perplexing player to me. He gets a lot of hype on these boards, mostly due to his gaudy stats for a defenseman, but I really don't find him to be a very good 5 on 5 defenseman. He's a killer on the PP, but he always leaves me wanting more at even strength. Yes, he's on a team that's been bad for a few years, but he seems to play so soft in the defensive zone whenever I watch him. I don't doubt he would've gotten similar, if not more money as a free agent, but I don't think he'll ever be a defenseman you want out there against the opponent's best.
I'll give him props for sticking with the Yotes, though, can't say I would have done the same.
 

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That would be crazy and great at the same time to think them as a top pairing. Helps too that Hjalmarsson is there as well have a bit of the Swede thing going on like they had in Detroit.

I could see maybe that # 5 being used with a piece or two extra like POJ or next years first with more pieces added.

OEL Karlsson
Hjalmarsson Goligoski
Chychrun Demers
UFA/Trade? - 7th dman

This would be the sickest defense in the league hands down.

Add maybe 2 top 6 forwards at free agency like a Van Riemsdyk and say a Statsny. I would put them as cup contenders. The free agency angle would have to have Karlsson acquired before free agency to bring in a lot more interest.

Van RiemsDyk Statsny Panik
Keller Stepan Perlini
Domi Dvorak Fischer
Cousins Krueger Archibald
Crouse

OEL Karlsson
Hjalmarsson Goligoski
Chychrun Demers
Connauton-Schenn - bring one more guy

Raanta
Kuemper

That’s a contending team in my eyes. Excited to see if something like his could actually happen.

panik , stastny first liner /containder

lol are u serious
 

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