Observations XXVII

[Armourboy]

haven't seen the last few games. what is nashville doing differently under hynes?
did they go to zone defense?

Yeah and the breakout and how they work through the neutral zone is different. Also concentrating on playing more to the middle of the ice on both offense and defense.

 

[LCPreds]

That's all stuff that we as fans do not know, and why fans forming opinions and making definitive statements about players and teams based on advanced stats is a foolish endeavor.

I use them as a way to see if what my eyes are telling me is also being reflected in the analytics. We all know the 5v5 play hasn't really been a problem with this team. Sure the defense has been pretty bad, and the goaltending has arguably been worse, but this is actually shown in the metrics as well. It basically shows that on 5v5 we are more than competitive which must mean that something else is wrong. We all know what that something else is.

I also like to see where we stack up against other teams in specific metrics. That is where I find value in the Tableau charts provided on the Charting Hockey site.

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

Does Trenin playing like he is put Watson on the trading block?

Gosh no. We need more of that, not less. It's more like he's putting Granlund on the trading block. Because we need that in our top 6 too. Trenin doesn't belong on merely a 4th line like Watson.

 

[PredsV82]

Gosh no. We need more of that, not less. It's more like he's putting Granlund on the trading block. Because we need that in our top 6 too. Trenin doesn't belong on merely a 4th line like Watson.

Yeah Watson is signed at very reasonable money and is perfect for the 4th line. Trenin needs to replace Granlund or Smith next year.

 

[Predsanddead24]

Trenin seems like he has the offensive instincts to be a top six player for sure. Really excited to see how he develops because he to me has the potential of a 30 goal scorer one day.

 

[Kat Predator]

Does Trenin playing like he is put Watson on the trading block?

Well, they literally just signed Watson to an extension, but with the new coach, etc., who knows?

 

[Kat Predator]

Gosh no. We need more of that, not less. It's more like he's putting Granlund on the trading block. Because we need that in our top 6 too. Trenin doesn't belong on merely a 4th line like Watson.

These guys all bring different tools in their toolboxes to work. Trenin is big, plays a straight line physical game, has speed and some legit offensive skills (shown at the AHL level). Granlund is an energy guy, faster and smaller, a playmaker who can score, and has situational versatility. Watson is similar in size and skills to those Trenin has shown this year, but Watson has shown he can be a very good defensive forward and a top guy on a good PK, which Trenin hasn't been asked to do at all.

 

[nine_inch_fang]

Observation: Colton Sissons was skating at Centennial today. Wasn't a legit workout or anything, looked more like he was testing the stability of his leg.
At least we know he's mobile and testing it, right.?.?.?

 

[wadesworld]

What's interesting about these last 2 games is our passing has looked *so* much better.

I think a concentration on the breakout and zone entry plan has led to more people being in the right place for support (particularly the centers) has led to shorter, high-percentage passes.

 

[Roman Yoshi]

Trenin seems like he has the offensive instincts to be a top six player for sure. Really excited to see how he develops because he to me has the potential of a 30 goal scorer one day.

I find Trenin scoring 30 goals in a season highly unlikely

 

[Armourboy]

Pretty crazy we won a 1-0 game in Winnipeg with Ellis, Fabbro, Sissons and Watson all out. Reminded me so much of the Trotz years.

The downside is that the Jofa line did basically nothing outside of a chance or two created by Arvy.

 

[Predsanddead24]

I find Trenin scoring 30 goals in a season highly unlikely

I wouldn't say it's likely but that's his potential in my mind. Obviously a small sample size but he's producing well with limited minutes so far and more importantly seems to have good offensive instincts.

 

[Soundgarden]

I wouldn't say it's likely but that's his potential in my mind. Obviously a small sample size but he's producing well with limited minutes so far and more importantly seems to have good offensive instincts.

Yeah, I could see it being his ceiling. whether or not he hits his ceiling is a different thing all together.

 

[101st_fan]

Sunday was the first step for the Hynes coached squad to start closing the gap without losing games in hand. Tonight is the next step. A regulation win puts the Preds two points behind the Oilers with three games in hand on them. There is still time to slowly reel things in and move up the standings.

 

[Armourboy]

Its definitely doable, there just isn't much room for error. Definitely need to be winning against the weaker teams you are competing against for those spots.

 

[adsfan]

I find Trenin scoring 30 goals in a season highly unlikely

I see him as a 15 to 20 goals a season player.

Maybe 30, if he plays on a line with a Wayne Gretzky type. I don't believe that Nashville has one of those. Josi is leading the team in points.

 

[Legionnaire11]

I see him as a 15 to 20 goals a season player.

Same, but I think he can do that while playing on a line with a 30+ scorer, using his size, strength and physical tenacity to open up space for his linemates.

 

[OldFan]

I see him as a 15 to 20 goals a season player.

Maybe 30, if he plays on a line with a Wayne Gretzky type. I don't believe that Nashville has one of those. Josi is leading the team in points.

With forwards like Forsberg, Ardvisson, Duchene and Johansen , Josi should never lead the team in points. That’s not to say he isn’t a brilliant player having a great year but all those forwards should normally have more points than him(barring injuries). It shows how he has taken the team on his shoulders singlehandedly some games. If they step it up in the standings, he should be Norris and maybe MVP(Hart?).

 

[Predsanddead24]

I see him as a 15 to 20 goals a season player.

Maybe 30, if he plays on a line with a Wayne Gretzky type. I don't believe that Nashville has one of those. Josi is leading the team in points.

I'd say 15-20 is the reasonable expectation and then on either end of the projection is him being a flash in a pan and the other side him being a 30 goal scorer. I don't think he would need a Gretzky type linemate to make it happen. Ryan Dzingel almost broke 30 last year playing with Duchene and I don't think Dzingel is even particularly good.

 

[triggrman]

I see him as a 15 to 20 goals a season player.

Maybe 30, if he plays on a line with a Wayne Gretzky type. I don't believe that Nashville has one of those. Josi is leading the team in points.

Josi would lead 19 teams in points.

 

[drwpreds]

Needless to say, but another HUGE game tonight for many reasons. Edmonton is a team we are trying to catch/pass- win tonight and we are only 2 points behind them with 3 games in hand.

Also, win tonight and that gives us a 3 game winning streak, something we have accomplished only one time this season. We have not won 3 in a row since late October- and that is a sad, ridiculous stat.

And with 2 very winnable games coming up against Anaheim and Buffalo, we have a real shot at a 5 game winning streak- and that is something we have not done since November 2018- yet another sad, sad stat...…….

 

[LCPreds]

I just hope we can continue to hang on with the patchwork defensive pairings. Ellis and Fabbro need to get back ASAP.

By the way, I assume Ellis is dealing with a concussion or did something else happen on that hit? (If we even know)

 

[Armourboy]

I just hope we can continue to hang on with the patchwork defensive pairings. Ellis and Fabbro need to get back ASAP.

By the way, I assume Ellis is dealing with a concussion or did something else happen on that hit? (If we even know)

Guess it could be neck related as well I would assume.

 

[drwpreds]

I just hope we can continue to hang on with the patchwork defensive pairings. Ellis and Fabbro need to get back ASAP.

By the way, I assume Ellis is dealing with a concussion or did something else happen on that hit? (If we even know)

Yep- if we don't get Ellis back reasonably soon we are in deep trouble.

After Saturday we have 9 days off- next game isn't until 1/27.

I wonder if he will be ready by then?- would be the best possible scenario.....

 

[Predsanddead24]

Re: Injuries




Seems like Ellis has the post consussion symptoms where he could be good next week or miss the whole season or even beyond and its incredibly tough to predict.