Oakland A's and Tampa Bay Rays Potential Relocation Thread
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Oakland may lose out on millions to advance proposed A's ballpark at Howard Terminal
Oakland may miss out on millions of dollars in grant money that could advance the Oakland A's proposed ballpark at the city's port.
www.cbsnews.com
LadyStanley
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Oakland hits minor roadblock in quest to keep A’s
The ballpark saga is nearing the two-year mark that MLB gave the A’s the green light to explore relocation. The Las Vegas Valley has been the only location the team has identified as a possib...
www.reviewjournal.com
Same story, but claims the city of Oakland gets no grant $$s for infrastructure upgrades. They'll have to find $$ elsewhere.
LadyStanley
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A’s expected to visit Las Vegas to meet with resort operators
Oakland Athletics’ brass will be back in Las Vegas on Wednesday to continue talks on a potential move to the valley, a person with knowledge of the situation says.
www.reviewjournal.com
Meanwhile, in Las Vegas....
A's brass in town today (2/1) talking with potential venue folks.
Have had conversations with the new governor.
PCSPounder
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Athletics running out of time to find home in Oakland, Las Vegas
The A's have spent many years trying to get a new stadium and time is running out on their efforts.
www.oregonlive.com
This article was interesting timing.
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LadyStanley
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Las Vegas site gives 'full support' to potential Athletics move if team can't -- or won't -- stay in Oakland
If the A's move from Oakland to Las Vegas, the city is totally on board
www.cbssports.com
MLB commish won't move on expansion until As and Tampa situations are resolved, one way or the other.
Article touts "festival site" as the best location. (SW corner of Sahara and LVB.) Currently paved area that is used for event space (think outdoor convention space for heavy equipment, or concerts/gatherings).
Officially that intersection is the north end of the Strip and Downtown starts and heads north. About a block from the Strat (formerly The Stratosphere), across the street from the Sahara. There are a bunch of non gaming resorts and timeshares nearby. The FountainBleu, opening soon, is nearby.
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Las Vegas site gives 'full support' to potential Athletics move if team can't -- or won't -- stay in Oakland
If the A's move from Oakland to Las Vegas, the city is totally on board
MLB commish won't move on expansion until As and Tampa situations are resolved, one way or the other.
Article touts "festival site" as the best location. (SW corner of Sahara and LVB.) Currently paved area that is used for event space (think outdoor convention space for heavy equipment, or concerts/gatherings).
Officially that intersection is the north end of the Strip and Downtown starts and heads north. About a block from the Strat (formerly The Stratosphere), across the street from the Sahara. There are a bunch of non gaming resorts and timeshares nearby. The FountainBleu, opening soon, is nearby.
It makes sense for sure, but I'd be a little weary of using the Festival Grounds. I mean, for a stadium that presumably will utilize foot traffic, not sure if you want it right next to Naked City. Who knows, maybe we'll get lucky and they'll buy Naked City and bulldoze it
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Tropicana site would be so much better than way up north. Way more more accessible to foot traffic for the majority of people staying on the Strip.
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Las Vegas MLB Stadium Apparently Down To One Possible Site
The Oakland A's are considering a move to Las Vegas....
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Agreed in general, but the problem with the Tropicana site is that the new incarnation of Bally's (the same one that's the name sponsor for the RSNs) is very likely to redevelop and expand the site into a new flagship Bally's Las Vegas. Especially with Caesar's, who sold them the Trop as part of the series deals that also gave them the Bally's name and Bally's Atlantic City, rebranding the prior Bally's into the new Horseshoe. A ballpark as part of that redevelopment one one hand might attract more patrons. On the other hand it also limits the footprint of the property they can use for the hotel and casino elements, which are the core of their purpose. So they might be unwilling to play ball, if you'll excuse the pun.Tropicana site would be so much better than way up north. Way more more accessible to foot traffic for the majority of people staying on the Strip.
Las Vegas MLB Stadium Apparently Down To One Possible Site
The Oakland A's are considering a move to Las Vegas....
Should be noted we're talking about a new ballpark at the site of the Tropicana casino in Vegas, not a new ballpark at the site of Tropicana Field in St Pete. There's something ironic about the possibility that both of these team's stadium sagas might end with building new ballparks at "the Tropicana site".
Is LV football stadium baseball friendly?Las Vegas site gives 'full support' to potential Athletics move if team can't -- or won't -- stay in Oakland
If the A's move from Oakland to Las Vegas, the city is totally on board
MLB commish won't move on expansion until As and Tampa situations are resolved, one way or the other.
Article touts "festival site" as the best location. (SW corner of Sahara and LVB.) Currently paved area that is used for event space (think outdoor convention space for heavy equipment, or concerts/gatherings).
Officially that intersection is the north end of the Strip and Downtown starts and heads north. About a block from the Strat (formerly The Stratosphere), across the street from the Sahara. There are a bunch of non gaming resorts and timeshares nearby. The FountainBleu, opening soon, is nearby.
LadyStanley
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Allegiant or Cashman field? Neither. The former is NFL, the latter USL/XFL. (And old Sam Boyd is American football but requires major overhaul and is miles from resort corridor.)
But Las Vegas Ballpark (10k capacity), home of spring Big League week is. Where MiLB Aviators play.
Jumptheshark
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AS someone who worked in Vegas for a year, my concern is that fact when a recession hits--Vegas is hit hard. I left right before one recession and my buddies gave me horror show details of how crazy things got
LadyStanley
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One reason they want sports as folks will travel to see team if able.
And the mayor is trying to have more diversified economy, not so dependent on hospitality and entertainment.
Jumptheshark
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but here is the thing. During recession people will not all people will be able to travel.
LadyStanley
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True. But if you "have" to come to Vegas for business/conference, it might be that you'd take in a game some evening.
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A Vegas team will always be a road draw, but fair reminder that Davis has already publicly pouted over road fans taking over Raiders home games despite that being a main reason for the team existing in the desert. So team owners can look gift horses in the mouth.
Well put. Vegas gets hit hard every recession and especially during Covid. Vegas business trips and conferences are the easy first cut for basically any industry when the time comes to tighten the belt.
Well put. Vegas gets hit hard every recession and especially during Covid. Vegas business trips and conferences are the easy first cut for basically any industry when the time comes to tighten the belt.
KevFu
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That's going to be true of ANY expansion or relocated team, though. It takes a lot of time (and success) before the fan base grows to the point where road fans are like every other city.
I do think that people who are primarily hockey fans, and from major hockey markets probably tend to have a different view about the amount of road fans and what those numbers mean.
If you're a fan in Edmonton, Calgary, Winnipeg or Ottawa...
#1 - you don't have other Big Four sports to compare it to, like we do in the states.
#2 - you don't have the volume of relocating fans that the southern states do.
#3 - AND tickets are hard to get in robust Canadian markets.
Look at the new teams in the other sports in the states.
When you go to games in places like Phoenix, the ratio of road fans to home fans is different every game based on which Phoenix team it is -- the Suns had a 20-year head start on the others, far bigger fan base than DBacks/Coyotes -- and who they are playing (size of market. Dallas is going to have more road fans at a Cardinals games than Buffalo would).
But road fans in every stadium/arena is totally normal.
BigBadBruins7708
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The Rio is now a contender for the stadium location. Makes a lot of sense, it has the same proximity to the strip as Allegiant Stadium and would give them room to have parking.
The location is right behind Caesars Palace and is fed by a major exit (Flamingo) and a large service road (Dean Martin)
www.ktnv.com
The location is right behind Caesars Palace and is fed by a major exit (Flamingo) and a large service road (Dean Martin)
Oakland A's looking at Rio property for possible ballpark site
Team still considering move to Las Vegas while Dreamscape raises more money to renovate the Rio hotel and casino.
www.ktnv.com
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Vegas should get an expansion franchise and the As need to get Howard Terminal done. For the health of the league.
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