Pre-Game Talk: nyrcar

[usekakkorightquinn]

Rangers are really top-heavy and have some god-awful possession metrics as a team. Part of that is probably due to the system that they play, however, Fox, Panarin, Buchnevich, and Zibanejad are the only major players with an even-strength Corsi over 50%. To give you an idea of how bad that is, our worst player in terms of even-strength Corsi, Joel Edmundson, has a 5-on-5 Corsi of 51%, just a little bit less than Fox, the Rangers' best Corsi guy. I'm not saying that they're a walkover, because their goaltending is really that good as an overall unit, but they're not unbeatable if the Canes can put all of their defensive stalwarts on those 4 players.

The Rangers are not top heavy at all. You're statement was idiotic. Rangers have 2 dominant scoring lines. Something almost no team has in this league. Most teams like Carolina are a one line team. The third line was rounding into form as Kakko and Howden had the game slow down for them their last 10 games. The Rangers have superior talent compared to the Canes who have the worst goaltending in hockey IMO. That being said, the Rangers were absurdly young this season. Experience matters in the playoffs. If the Canes don't win this series they need to make major changes. Corsi is a moronic stat. Stop looking at it and learn to watch the game with your eyes.

Three biggest issues the Canes will have in this series are as follows. Slavin is a tremendous defenseman but he can only go against one line. Panarin and Zibanejad are on different lines so what he does won't be as effective as if they played a one line team. Two, barring a miracle, the Canes goalies stink and are easy to beat where as Shesterkin is not. A big disadvantage for the Canes. Three, the Rangers PP should light the Canes up pretty easily if the Canes don't stay out of the box. Canes were SH more than any team in the league. While their PK was really good, it won't work against NY with the firepower they have now that the PP is clicking on all cylinders and the Canes goalies are atrocious. I still think with the experience they have the Canes should find a way to win. After this season forget it. When the Rangers young talent continues to mature they will put a buttwhipping on the eastern conference for a long time.

 

[Navin R Slavin]

*yawn*

 

[A Star is Burns]

Idiotic statements...idiotic statements...why does that ring a bell?

 

[Canes]

The Rangers are not top heavy at all. You're statement was idiotic. Rangers have 2 dominant scoring lines. Something almost no team has in this league. Most teams like Carolina are a one line team. The third line was rounding into form as Kakko and Howden had the game slow down for them their last 10 games. The Rangers have superior talent compared to the Canes who have the worst goaltending in hockey IMO. That being said, the Rangers were absurdly young this season. Experience matters in the playoffs. If the Canes don't win this series they need to make major changes. Corsi is a moronic stat. Stop looking at it and learn to watch the game with your eyes.

Three biggest issues the Canes will have in this series are as follows. Slavin is a tremendous defenseman but he can only go against one line. Panarin and Zibanejad are on different lines so what he does won't be as effective as if they played a one line team. Two, barring a miracle, the Canes goalies stink and are easy to beat where as Shesterkin is not. A big disadvantage for the Canes. Three, the Rangers PP should light the Canes up pretty easily if the Canes don't stay out of the box. Canes were SH more than any team in the league. While their PK was really good, it won't work against NY with the firepower they have now that the PP is clicking on all cylinders and the Canes goalies are atrocious. I still think with the experience they have the Canes should find a way to win. After this season forget it. When the Rangers young talent continues to mature they will put a buttwhipping on the eastern conference for a long time.

What you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

 

[tarheelhockey]

The Rangers are not top heavy at all. You're statement was idiotic. Rangers have 2 dominant scoring lines. Something almost no team has in this league. Most teams like Carolina are a one line team. The third line was rounding into form as Kakko and Howden had the game slow down for them their last 10 games. The Rangers have superior talent compared to the Canes who have the worst goaltending in hockey IMO. That being said, the Rangers were absurdly young this season. Experience matters in the playoffs. If the Canes don't win this series they need to make major changes. Corsi is a moronic stat. Stop looking at it and learn to watch the game with your eyes.

Three biggest issues the Canes will have in this series are as follows. Slavin is a tremendous defenseman but he can only go against one line. Panarin and Zibanejad are on different lines so what he does won't be as effective as if they played a one line team. Two, barring a miracle, the Canes goalies stink and are easy to beat where as Shesterkin is not. A big disadvantage for the Canes. Three, the Rangers PP should light the Canes up pretty easily if the Canes don't stay out of the box. Canes were SH more than any team in the league. While their PK was really good, it won't work against NY with the firepower they have now that the PP is clicking on all cylinders and the Canes goalies are atrocious. I still think with the experience they have the Canes should find a way to win. After this season forget it. When the Rangers young talent continues to mature they will put a buttwhipping on the eastern conference for a long time.

There's a box of tissues in the bathroom. For when you're finished.

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

The Rangers: better at every single thing

The Canes: "experienced"




The Canes and Rangers coming into the year had the exact same average age, probably skewed only by the fact that we now have one of your top 4 defensemen.

 

[Surrounded By Ahos]

The Rangers are not top heavy at all. You're statement was idiotic. Rangers have 2 dominant scoring lines. Something almost no team has in this league. Most teams like Carolina are a one line team. The third line was rounding into form as Kakko and Howden had the game slow down for them their last 10 games. The Rangers have superior talent compared to the Canes who have the worst goaltending in hockey IMO. That being said, the Rangers were absurdly young this season. Experience matters in the playoffs. If the Canes don't win this series they need to make major changes. Corsi is a moronic stat. Stop looking at it and learn to watch the game with your eyes.

Three biggest issues the Canes will have in this series are as follows. Slavin is a tremendous defenseman but he can only go against one line. Panarin and Zibanejad are on different lines so what he does won't be as effective as if they played a one line team. Two, barring a miracle, the Canes goalies stink and are easy to beat where as Shesterkin is not. A big disadvantage for the Canes. Three, the Rangers PP should light the Canes up pretty easily if the Canes don't stay out of the box. Canes were SH more than any team in the league. While their PK was really good, it won't work against NY with the firepower they have now that the PP is clicking on all cylinders and the Canes goalies are atrocious. I still think with the experience they have the Canes should find a way to win. After this season forget it. When the Rangers young talent continues to mature they will put a buttwhipping on the eastern conference for a long time.

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

I love posts where you can be like "well, that's a person that only follows their own team."

 

[WreckingCrew]

The Rangers are not top heavy at all. You're statement was idiotic. Rangers have 2 dominant scoring lines. Something almost no team has in this league. Most teams like Carolina are a one line team. The third line was rounding into form as Kakko and Howden had the game slow down for them their last 10 games. The Rangers have superior talent compared to the Canes who have the worst goaltending in hockey IMO. That being said, the Rangers were absurdly young this season. Experience matters in the playoffs. If the Canes don't win this series they need to make major changes. Corsi is a moronic stat. Stop looking at it and learn to watch the game with your eyes.

Three biggest issues the Canes will have in this series are as follows. Slavin is a tremendous defenseman but he can only go against one line. Panarin and Zibanejad are on different lines so what he does won't be as effective as if they played a one line team. Two, barring a miracle, the Canes goalies stink and are easy to beat where as Shesterkin is not. A big disadvantage for the Canes. Three, the Rangers PP should light the Canes up pretty easily if the Canes don't stay out of the box. Canes were SH more than any team in the league. While their PK was really good, it won't work against NY with the firepower they have now that the PP is clicking on all cylinders and the Canes goalies are atrocious. I still think with the experience they have the Canes should find a way to win. After this season forget it. When the Rangers young talent continues to mature they will put a buttwhipping on the eastern conference for a long time.

I think you're preaching to the wrong crowd...did you intend this to go to the Rangers board or even the Main board thread of the Canes v. Rangers playoff-qualifier? In any case, hot taeks

 

[DougieSmash]

The Rangers are not top heavy at all. You're statement was idiotic. Rangers have 2 dominant scoring lines. Something almost no team has in this league. Most teams like Carolina are a one line team. The third line was rounding into form as Kakko and Howden had the game slow down for them their last 10 games. The Rangers have superior talent compared to the Canes who have the worst goaltending in hockey IMO. That being said, the Rangers were absurdly young this season. Experience matters in the playoffs. If the Canes don't win this series they need to make major changes. Corsi is a moronic stat. Stop looking at it and learn to watch the game with your eyes.

Three biggest issues the Canes will have in this series are as follows. Slavin is a tremendous defenseman but he can only go against one line. Panarin and Zibanejad are on different lines so what he does won't be as effective as if they played a one line team. Two, barring a miracle, the Canes goalies stink and are easy to beat where as Shesterkin is not. A big disadvantage for the Canes. Three, the Rangers PP should light the Canes up pretty easily if the Canes don't stay out of the box. Canes were SH more than any team in the league. While their PK was really good, it won't work against NY with the firepower they have now that the PP is clicking on all cylinders and the Canes goalies are atrocious. I still think with the experience they have the Canes should find a way to win. After this season forget it. When the Rangers young talent continues to mature they will put a buttwhipping on the eastern conference for a long time.

Still Canes in 3, so who cares at all about that

 

[jiitu]

The Rangers are not top heavy at all. You're statement was idiotic. Rangers have 2 dominant scoring lines. Something almost no team has in this league. Most teams like Carolina are a one line team. The third line was rounding into form as Kakko and Howden had the game slow down for them their last 10 games. The Rangers have superior talent compared to the Canes who have the worst goaltending in hockey IMO. That being said, the Rangers were absurdly young this season. Experience matters in the playoffs. If the Canes don't win this series they need to make major changes. Corsi is a moronic stat. Stop looking at it and learn to watch the game with your eyes.

Three biggest issues the Canes will have in this series are as follows. Slavin is a tremendous defenseman but he can only go against one line. Panarin and Zibanejad are on different lines so what he does won't be as effective as if they played a one line team. Two, barring a miracle, the Canes goalies stink and are easy to beat where as Shesterkin is not. A big disadvantage for the Canes. Three, the Rangers PP should light the Canes up pretty easily if the Canes don't stay out of the box. Canes were SH more than any team in the league. While their PK was really good, it won't work against NY with the firepower they have now that the PP is clicking on all cylinders and the Canes goalies are atrocious. I still think with the experience they have the Canes should find a way to win. After this season forget it. When the Rangers young talent continues to mature they will put a buttwhipping on the eastern conference for a long time.

Couple of facts to your writing. Sixth best forward in both teams have 29 points.

Average age of field players, ok nyr has bit ober year younger, but take willy out and difference is 0,6 y .

Yes, its i difference but if you are telling that canes are some super experienced team vs rangers young core, thats bullshit. Your two main pointmen are way older than canes'. (4 years).

So lets just see the results now and in the future and see, who has more talent.

Edit: by the way. This basically same core was a full year younger last uear and went to conference finals. So no excuses for our rangers.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Just give Hank’s response and yawn. Don’t engage. Either he/she will be wrong and we’ll never hear from them again, or he/she will be right and we’ll block them.

cross board trash talking is what I don’t like about playoffs. Some like it, but I now just tune it out.

 

[GIN ANTONIC]

Pretty unreal that the Rangers were such a better team than Carolina in all those different areas yet were actually worse when it came to winning games and getting points. Must be pretty frustrating to be the best team in the league and not have the rest of the world realize it.

 

[tarheelhockey]

Pretty unreal that the Rangers were such a better team than Carolina in all those different areas yet were actually worse when it came to winning games and getting points. Must be pretty frustrating to be the best team in the league and not have the rest of the world realize it.

Craziest case I seen since the ‘06 Sabres.

 

[Surrounded By Ahos]

Craziest case I seen since the ‘06 Sabres.

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

LOL, you guys are hilarious. I didn't even have time to read or respond to it because I was too busy. I think that we're too hard on someone who's clearly, at most, about 17.

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

The Rangers are not top heavy at all. You're statement was idiotic. Rangers have 2 dominant scoring lines. Something almost no team has in this league. Most teams like Carolina are a one line team. The third line was rounding into form as Kakko and Howden had the game slow down for them their last 10 games. The Rangers have superior talent compared to the Canes who have the worst goaltending in hockey IMO. That being said, the Rangers were absurdly young this season. Experience matters in the playoffs. If the Canes don't win this series they need to make major changes. Corsi is a moronic stat. Stop looking at it and learn to watch the game with your eyes.

Three biggest issues the Canes will have in this series are as follows. Slavin is a tremendous defenseman but he can only go against one line. Panarin and Zibanejad are on different lines so what he does won't be as effective as if they played a one line team. Two, barring a miracle, the Canes goalies stink and are easy to beat where as Shesterkin is not. A big disadvantage for the Canes. Three, the Rangers PP should light the Canes up pretty easily if the Canes don't stay out of the box. Canes were SH more than any team in the league. While their PK was really good, it won't work against NY with the firepower they have now that the PP is clicking on all cylinders and the Canes goalies are atrocious. I still think with the experience they have the Canes should find a way to win. After this season forget it. When the Rangers young talent continues to mature they will put a buttwhipping on the eastern conference for a long time.

The worst goaltending in hockey...well, maybe on paper. On the actual ice, though, that's a massive stretch, especially if you're talking James Reimer, whom had a save percentage comparable to Georgiev this year. The rest of it, well, we'll see. Guys like Howden/Chytil/Kakko/Gauthier need to take a step up and then another one in their development if you want the bottom 6 to even be league-average, especially since Lemieux (who's actually a pretty valuable 3rd line guy) is likely to be suspended for a game or two at the beginning. Not saying it's impossible, because they're all really young, I'm just saying that it's a lot to ask for in 3 games.

 

[bleedgreen]

Mrazek is capable of being the hottest goalie in the tournament, so I don’t buy the worst goaltending comment. He hasnt repeated last year, but with the break you can’t predict which way that’s going to go.

They’re faster than us, I do think their overall offensive chemistry is notably more dangerous than ours. We have way better defenseman but I don’t think we play great defensive hockey very often.....we’re still better at it than they are. Goaltending to me is a wash. They’re probably a little shiny new toy over rated and like I said we’re probably under rated. Their kids haven’t been through playoffs yet and are relatively untested.

All the crazy momentum they had has been stopped. Not an easy thing to just flip on. This is a fun series, would’ve been pretty unpredictable even without the break.

 

[AD Skinner]

Team save percentage 19-20
Rangers .908, 11th in league
Hurricanes. 904, 15th in league

Team GAA
Hurricanes 2.74, 12th
Rangers 2.99, 24th

Goals allowed
Hurricanes 193, 9th
Rangers 220, 23rd

Yep, clear cut goaltending advantage for the Rangers, open and shut case Johnson

 

[jiitu]

Team save percentage 19-20
Rangers .908, 11th in league
Hurricanes. 904, 15th in league

Team GAA
Hurricanes 2.74, 12th
Rangers 2.99, 24th

Goals allowed
Hurricanes 193, 9th
Rangers 220, 23rd

Yep, clear cut goaltending advantage for the Rangers, open and shut case Johnson

I mustadmit that i am bit scared of shetsherkin. I only wonder, why didnt he play more games in regular season.

 

[SlavinAway]

I mustadmit that i am bit scared of shetsherkin. I only wonder, why didnt he play more games in regular season.

A lot of games were cancelled due to COVID-19.

 

[the halleJOKEL]

A lot of games were cancelled due to COVID-19.

due to what???

 

[Joe McGrath]

I still don’t know where this fallacy that the Rangers were red hot and destined to make the postseason came from. They were 2-4-1 after the trade deadline and the teams in front of them had games in hand.

 

[AD Skinner]

Shestyorkin has a pretty stat line, it's true, but 12 games isn't a huge sample size. And if you rank all 5 potential starters in this series, it might shake out like this:

GP-W-L-OTL-GAA-SV

Shestyorkin

12

10

2

0

2.52

.932

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Reimer

25

14

6

2

2.66

.914

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Mrazek

40

21

16

2

2.69

.905

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Georgiev

34

17

14

2

3.04

.910

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Lundqvist

30

10

12

3

3.16

.905

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

To me that's 4 guys who are hovering around league average and one rookie on a hot streak. Is that enough to win a playoff series, absolutely it is but it's no guarantee either.

 

[jiitu]

Shestyorkin has a pretty stat line, it's true, but 12 games isn't a huge sample size. And if you rank all 5 potential starters in this series, it might shake out like this:

GP-W-L-OTL-GAA-SV

Shestyorkin

12

10

2

0

2.52

.932

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Reimer

25

14

6

2

2.66

.914

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Mrazek

40

21

16

2

2.69

.905

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Georgiev

34

17

14

2

3.04

.910

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Lundqvist

30

10

12

3

3.16

.905

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

To me that's 4 guys who are hovering around league average and one rookie on a hot streak. Is that enough to win a playoff series, absolutely it is but it's no guarantee either.

12 games alone is not much, but
Its just that shetserkin only continued the trend from all other series.

But lets see. Its gonna be super interesting series.