Confirmed Trade: [NYR/OTT] Rangers trade Vlad Namestnikov ($750k retained) to Senators for Nick Ebert, '21 4th

[Mick Jagr]

Maybe Namestnikov’s time in Ottawa will be a little more interesting especially at the prospect of playing on a line with Abramov and Anisimov.

Ottawa’s top 12 actually looks somewhat respectable.
Line 1 LW Tkachuk C White RW Ryan
Line 2 LW Duclair C Pageau RW C. Brown
Line 3 LW Abramov C Anisimov RW Namestnikov
Line 4 LW Ennis C Tierney RW Boedker

If only they didn't have AHL quality center depth then they might actually have a pretty decent set of forwards.

 

[pld459666]

If Vlad puts up 30-40 points and Ottawa gets a 2nd for him in February

This is a steal for Ottawa.

Right now it's a win win for both teams.

 

[GAGLine]

Good luck to Vlad. He seems like a good guy.

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

So a whole lotta nothing...shoulda held into him until the deadline.

Not sure they would have gotten more then. Cap space is flexibility.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

If Vlad puts up 30-40 points and Ottawa gets a 2nd for him in February

This is a steal for Ottawa.

Right now it's a win win for both teams.

Ottawa should get at least a 3rd for him unless he's hurt or somehow really terrible

 

[Gardner McKay]

Ottawa should get at least a 3rd for him unless he's hurt or somehow really terrible

Provided he is able to produce 30-40 points. I really tried to give Namestnikov a chance. I wanted to like him but the guy just... exists.

 

[qqaz]

For some reason I always get Namestnikov and Anisimov mixed up.

This won’t help.

AniSImov plays C.

NaMEStnikov's career has been a mess.

You're welcome.

 

[NYRKing]

Good trade for the Sens. They'll flip him for a better return at the deadline.

 

[domiwroze]

What I want to know more than this Name trade is why was Kravtsov scratched in the AHL.

I thought Rangers fan were saying he was Calder material this year

 

[bernmeister]

You know they put Nieves on waivers in order to send him down to hartford right? I'm curious if you still think Boo Nieves is the future 1C with how zibanejad has been playing

they also sent Kravtsov and Chytil down to juggle the roster

I never said IN A VACUUM Boo was a 1C for them or anyone else.
In a vacuum his projected top mark is 3C, MAYBE 2C in a good fit.

However, as I am on record noting, the fit here is Kreider. Nieves on paper is an ideal complement to Kreider (driver of possession) and the correct RW who is a finisher w/acceptably high scorer skills. That should be Zib, not b'c he isn't good as a 1C, he is, but b'c we have other first line options, and we can return the righty shot Zib to bookend with lefty Kreider, which is known to work well in the past. Nieves has the size, superior speed, reach, passing skill, and defensive prowess [as seen by a very good +/- for a 4th liner w/no PP, and scrub Ws who are black holes for scoring, suppressing Boo's own point totals]. The dominance of these Ws w/some support presence by Boo, and better Ds [Fox, Trouba, etc] would exploit offensively while Nieves could be counted on to get back defensively if there is too much pinching/overreach.

Like I said, Nieves should be attached to Kreider. BK, Before Kakko, Chris was the undisputed 1LW. With addition of KK, Chris is 2LW, so Nieves, should be 2C allowing righty shot Zib to 2RW. Zib on 2nd line strengthens that unit.

Ist line? IMO should be KK-Krav-Panarin. KK may ultimately play pivot, and maybe not, let's not rush him and while all these guys can do what chemistry dictates/drawn up plays suggest is best, start with lefty shot at LW, breadman switches from LW to RW, again, mostly for purposes of faceoffs, etc so not using weaker side on draws. Kravtsov is phenomenal vision and good other skills, has played pivot briefly very well in high level international play, and only adjustment to NHL is to get acclimated to size of rink, which he can handle physically, but needs mental adjustment contrary to his initial impulse, which he will revise with experience.

Chytil and others are other possibles here, but I think we are best off pushing him to third line, strengthening that. Sell Buch high.

trust that covers it.

 

[Hunter Gathers]

If Vlad puts up 30-40 points and Ottawa gets a 2nd for him in February

This is a steal for Ottawa.

Right now it's a win win for both teams.

I think Ottawa gets a 3rd for him. That's what I anticipated at the deadline. So getting a 4th to move him early is fine with me.

 

[Kupo]

they also sent Kravtsov and Chytil down to juggle the roster

I never said IN A VACUUM Boo was a 1C for them or anyone else.
In a vacuum his projected top mark is 3C, MAYBE 2C in a good fit.

However, as I am on record noting, the fit here is Kreider. Nieves on paper is an ideal complement to Kreider (driver of possession) and the correct RW who is a finisher w/acceptably high scorer skills. That should be Zib, not b'c he isn't good as a 1C, he is, but b'c we have other first line options, and we can return the righty shot Zib to bookend with lefty Kreider, which is known to work well in the past. Nieves has the size, superior speed, reach, passing skill, and defensive prowess [as seen by a very good +/- for a 4th liner w/no PP, and scrub Ws who are black holes for scoring, suppressing Boo's own point totals]. The dominance of these Ws w/some support presence by Boo, and better Ds [Fox, Trouba, etc] would exploit offensively while Nieves could be counted on to get back defensively if there is too much pinching/overreach.

Like I said, Nieves should be attached to Kreider. BK, Before Kakko, Chris was the undisputed 1LW. With addition of KK, Chris is 2LW, so Nieves, should be 2C allowing righty shot Zib to 2RW. Zib on 2nd line strengthens that unit.

Ist line? IMO should be KK-Krav-Panarin. KK may ultimately play pivot, and maybe not, let's not rush him and while all these guys can do what chemistry dictates/drawn up plays suggest is best, start with lefty shot at LW, breadman switches from LW to RW, again, mostly for purposes of faceoffs, etc so not using weaker side on draws. Kravtsov is phenomenal vision and good other skills, has played pivot briefly very well in high level international play, and only adjustment to NHL is to get acclimated to size of rink, which he can handle physically, but needs mental adjustment contrary to his initial impulse, which he will revise with experience.

Chytil and others are other possibles here, but I think we are best off pushing him to third line, strengthening that. Sell Buch high.

trust that covers it.

I'm convinced you don't watch Hockey.

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

I think that way too much is being made of this. Over a guy that most Ranger fans couldn't wait to dump this offseason. Am I over the moon about the return? Of course not. Am I crestfallen? No.

This move:
- Gives the Rangers flexibility: both on the roster and with the cap
- Allows them to give more ice time to Lemieux and maybe some to McKegg, who has certainly earned that opportunity
- In theory allow the Rangers to ice a team that should be harder to play against

Namestnikov is an example of a guy who's resume is more impressive than the candidate. He was far from noticeable in the first two games, when he really had no room to be. The Rangers can now add guys to the lineup who fit the team's identity and what the coach wants. While gaining cap space.

 

[SpezDispenser]

If only they didn't have AHL quality center depth then they might actually have a pretty decent set of forwards.

Hmmm. Now, we're terrible, make no mistake about it, but Pageau has been very good his entire career - with the exception of the year he tore his Achilles. White is a 22 coming off a 41 point season and doesn't look right yet this year, but should be pretty good. Anisimov...has been terrible thus far, granted. Tierney is another (kind of underrated guy). He can play and put up 40+ points (closer to 50 last year).

I don't really think it's the Cs, I think it's the lack of experience and the lack of elite talent...and the defence is green and not fantastic and Anderson just turned 108 and our owner is terrible and our GM has made some amazingly stupid moves.

You know how it goes...most fans of teams know exactly the position we're in (maybe minus the idiot owner).

EDIT: And man...we need someone (anyone) who can win a faceoff.

 

[Eisen]

Why is the worst team in the league giving up a pick for a pending free agent? Unless they think he will get more at the tdl...

A fourth is almost worthless.

 

[Chalfdiggity3]

A fourth is almost worthless.

Really? Lol the king was a 7th round pick. Tom Brady was a 6th round pick. There are hidden gems all over drafts. It's a shot in the dark but no pick iin a draft is worthless

 

[smitty10]

Really? Lol the king was a 7th round pick. Tom Brady was a 6th round pick. There are hidden gems all over drafts. It's a shot in the dark but no pick iin a draft is worthless

It's almost worthless due to the fact that the chances of drafting an NHL caliber player, let alone a superstar, is very low. Not saying it doesn't happen, but it's rare.

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

Good trade for the Sens. They'll flip him for a better return at the deadline.

Only if Namestnikov plays better.

 

[cska78]

Namestnikov in my mind is overrated, and he is what he is, a third-liner when he comes to play. He is en root to playing himself out of the league if you ask me

 

[Chalfdiggity3]

It's almost worthless due to the fact that the chances of drafting an NHL caliber player, let alone a superstar, is very low. Not saying it doesn't happen, but it's rare.

While I agree the whole point is freeing up cap space. A 4th rounder still has value in a draft and in trades.

 

[Gospel of Prospal]

McKegg will play in Names' stead and Haley will be the extra F. Move Lias to the second line and have McKegg center Strome and Smith on the fourth line.

 

[Trxjw]

What I want to know more than this Name trade is why was Kravtsov scratched in the AHL.

He came out and supported the protesters in Hong Kong.

 

[Hivemind]

Nick Ebert still exists!?!

 

[RangersFan1994]

A fourth is almost worthless.

Ryan Callahan was a 4th round pick

The pick traded for Mark Messier when was traded to the Sharks.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Namestnikov was one of my least favorite players on the Ranger's in recent times. Very underwhelming.