Confirmed Trade: [NYR/OTT] Rangers trade Vlad Namestnikov ($750k retained) to Senators for Nick Ebert, '21 4th

[Sting]

I haven't heard anything regarding his bad attitude. I heard Ott. took issue with his DJ'ing and questioned his dedication to hockey.........when he was 19. At the time, with the emergence of Pageau, that pushed Zib to 3C and they opted to send him to Binghampton instead......... it might be easy to assume a player could become disenfranchised with that.

Actually, they let him go because he couldn't elevate his game. He showed very little to no development / drive in the time he was there. It had nothing to do with him DJ'ing, lol.

 

[ICanMotteBelieveIt]

I guess it is all how one values the "return"
3.25M in cap relief is a pretty decent return for a
guy who had no real future in their organization,
especially when you consider NY was close to the cap.
They gain flexibility, which could turn out to be invaluable moving forward
They also got a marginal AHL player and a mid pick.
That seems like gravy. I think both teams are happy with the outcome.
I think for NY, this is addition by subtraction.

I agree, but value-wise it wasn't that good. But the cap-flexibility is awesome.

I get why the Rangers did this. But they should've gotten a better prospect/player back. But all in all, I'm fine with the move. Due to the cap-flexibility we get.

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

I agree, but value-wise it wasn't that good. But the cap-flexibility is awesome.

That is the value.

I get why the Rangers did this. But they should've gotten a better prospect/player back.

If they could have, wouldn't they have?

 

[Kupo]

If they could have, wouldn't they have?

We passed on that other better offer, similar to the McDonagh trade. Gorton prefers less than more when trading players.

 

[Waivers]

What better offer did the Rangers pass up on? Was it at last year’s trade deadline?

 

[Shootertooter]

Actually, they let him go because he couldn't elevate his game. He showed very little to no development / drive in the time he was there. It had nothing to do with him DJ'ing, lol.

Drive and development?
His stat line in Ott reads like this........
2012-2013- 42 games.....20 pts
2013-2014- 69 games.....33pts
2014-2015- 80 games.....46pts
2016-2016- 81 games......51pts

He seemed to be getting better and better.
Isn't that improvement a testament to developing?

 

[Chabot84]

Drive and development?
His stat line in Ott reads like this........
2012-2013- 42 games.....20 pts
2013-2014- 69 games.....33pts
2014-2015- 80 games.....46pts
2016-2016- 81 games......51pts

He seemed to be getting better and better.
Isn't that improvement a testament to developing?

They traded him because they didn’t want to pay him.

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

Are you really comparing what Zibanejad did in his last year in Ottawa to what Names did last season? LOLOL

Swift's entire reason for being is to defend Pierre Dorion at all costs.

If Pierre made the trade, it has to be a huge win for Ottawa.

 

[Sting]

Drive and development?
His stat line in Ott reads like this........
2012-2013- 42 games.....20 pts
2013-2014- 69 games.....33pts
2014-2015- 80 games.....46pts
2016-2016- 81 games......51pts

He seemed to be getting better and better.
Isn't that improvement a testament to developing?

More to the story than the points. I wouldn't have made that trade at the time, but there was a good argument for selling high on Zibanejad (not that this was the case lol). Depite those 46 / 51 pt seasons, he went invisible for long stretches and wasn't good defensively. He looked like he didn't care and wasn't the type of player you'd want in your top 6. He obviously turned it around from what I've seen.

 

[Chabot84]

More to the story than the points. I wouldn't have made that trade at the time, but there was a good argument for selling high on Zibanejad (not that this was the case lol). Depite those 46 / 51 pt seasons, he went invisible for long stretches and wasn't good defensively. He looked like he didn't care and wasn't the type of player you'd want in your top 6. He obviously turned it around from what I've seen.

I guess it doesn’t matter as the Sens sold off the whole team shortly after, zibanejad was just the first to go.

 

[Qward]

At the time they said they wanted a LH centre and they targeted Brassard.
Sens gave up a 2nd to the Rangers to eat his signing bonus. This was the first red flag that the team was being ordered to shed salary.

Brassard helped in the playoffs and we thank him for that. It is easy to look back at a trade and see how badly it went.

This is a team that traded Heatley for Michalek and Cheechoo.
Spezza for Nick Paul and Alex Chiasson.
Signed Redden over Chara.
Tugnutt for Barasso.

Just add it to the list of regrets.

 

[SpezDispenser]

At the time they said they wanted a LH centre and they targeted Brassard.
Sens gave up a 2nd to the Rangers to eat his signing bonus. This was the first red flag that the team was being ordered to shed salary.

Brassard helped in the playoffs and we thank him for that. It is easy to look back at a trade and see how badly it went.

This is a team that traded Heatley for Michalek and Cheechoo.
Spezza for Nick Paul and Alex Chiasson.
Signed Redden over Chara.
Tugnutt for Barasso.

Just add it to the list of regrets.

That's not fair at all. Heatley demanded a trade, had a NTC, and had already vetoed a trade. Good luck getting value for that.

Spezza - no one wanted. You think they didn't try to get the best possible package? You think they wanted to settle for what they got?

Signing Redden over Chara will haunt this franchise forever, that was before capologists and no one knew what they were doing, but it was still horrible.

Talk regrets and the Hoffman for Boedker comes to mind, as does Bishop for Conacher.

 

[Chabot84]

At the time they said they wanted a LH centre and they targeted Brassard.
Sens gave up a 2nd to the Rangers to eat his signing bonus. This was the first red flag that the team was being ordered to shed salary.

Brassard helped in the playoffs and we thank him for that. It is easy to look back at a trade and see how badly it went.

This is a team that traded Heatley for Michalek and Cheechoo.
Spezza for Nick Paul and Alex Chiasson.
Signed Redden over Chara.
Tugnutt for Barasso.

Just add it to the list of regrets.

Forget the second.. trading zibanejad for brassard was the red flag.. the second on top.. we should have all known right then. We were blinded by the success of our team but that was move one, the first dominoe