Proposal: Nugent-Hopkins for Carlo and Backes

[nzoilerfan]

One of the worst I've seen in quite some time. Not even close to RNH's value.

 

[Dan Kelly]

Then we'd be looking for a dman again that can play top minutes and shutdown top lines. We create a hole to fill a hole and offload Backes. Still don't think management does that because a 3C is easier to find than a Top pairing D. Especially one that is an RFA and can handle 20+ min a night. But hey, homer right?

This isn't necessarily accusing you of homerism, it's just a bad deal for the Oilers and even Chia would recognize this! One more stupid deal like this for the Oilers and Chia is fired and he knows it !

 

[John Bruins]

Carlo is top 4 defensive dman that plays 20 mins per game, Nugent Hopkins is a 18 -24 goals LW which Boston doesn't need with (Marchand, DeBrusk, Donato).

 

[Cup or Bust]

Awful deal for the Oilers.

 

[ThreeOfAPerfectPair]

Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan ($6,000,000)



Backes, David ($6,000,000)
Carlo, Brandon ($789,167)

Yeah maybe Spooner and Lucic gets that done.

 

[Oil Spill]

We're looking for Top 6 RW and 3C. Which one would RNH fit best? It's my understanding if RNH isn't playing Center, he is playing LW, correct?

Or is this a stupid assumption.

RNH has been centring the the second line most this year.

 

[Dan Kelly]

Carlo is top 4 defensive dman that plays 20 mins per game, Nugent Hopkins is a 18 -24 goals LW which Boston doesn't need with (Marchand, DeBrusk, Donato).

 

[Slyfox]

Close this down, Bruins fans don't agree to this deal. They are happy with Carlo and Backes.

 

[John Bruins]

Close this down, Bruins fans don't agree to this deal. They are happy with Carlo and Backes.

Correction we are happy with Carlo.

 

[compan]

Correction we are happy with Carlo.

They'll read whatever they want.

Maybe I'm thinking too much into it, but I feel like it is rather shortsighted to trade our top pairing shutdown Dman who is a 22yr old RFA for a player that I'm not even sure would be used in their strength and to unload a contract for only the next couple years. Cap is increasing next year as well and maybe he even retires before his contract is up. Do we really trade Carlo, a player that we know we need for the future (@ only 22yrs old), for a couple years of cap relief and for player that would play a position that we can potentially fill in the off-season through FA? We have Bergeron and Krejci as our 1-2 down the middle. If Nug would be utilized at wing, well we have the LWs...it's the RWs we need.

But I'm sure none of the Oil fans here calling me a homer thought much into WHY it would be a no from my standpoint.

 

[BruinLVGA]

The question is whether RNH really is a near ppg guy (as he's done this season) or a dude who, in his 8th season, hasn't had more than 56 points (in 14-15...). Huge difference.

 

[Ctrain2k]

Carlo is a defensive dman and Edmonton could really use a good one of those. Not really a relevant point to compare point totals.

That said, no from Bruins and no from Oilers.

No we don’t, complete opposite actually we need an offensive defenseman.

 

[compan]

No we don’t, complete opposite actually we need an offensive defenseman.

We used to offer Krug in these scenarios but it's been discovered Edmonton was on his "no trade list".

 

[Dan Kelly]

We used to offer Krug in these scenarios but it's been discovered Edmonton was on his "no trade list".

Source? And yes we'd want Krug but he's a UFA soon and would likely bolt so that is a no do as well.

And don't think Oilers fans feel that Carlo or Krug aren't good players, they are, but sorry a soon to be 35 year old who hasn't been as productive in Boston as he was in St. Louis in Backes is absolutely NOT what the Oilers would want in return for any potential Nuge trade.

 

[compan]

Source? And yes we'd want Krug but he's a UFA soon and would likely bolt so that is a no do as well.

And don't think Oilers fans feel that Carlo or Krug aren't good players, they are, but sorry a soon to be 35 year old who hasn't been as productive in Boston as he was in St. Louis in Backes is absolutely NOT what the Oilers would want in return for any potential Nuge trade.

Here is what we saw posted today in our rolling thread:


But yes, to your other point, that is why I said No from Oil. They don't need a second Lucic type contract.

 

[Extra Texture]

If Boston wants to send Backes to Edmonton, maybe they'll take Lucic back.

 

[GoldiFox]

RNH + Puljujarvi for Dougie Hamilton + Michael Ferland

 

[Dan Kelly]

@compan thanks. And Nuge is nowhere near as gawd awful as Lucic is and his contract is much shorter. All previous stats aside, Nuge is now turning into a very well rounded player and he started to show it last year. The B's could secure a very good player in Nuge if he was available, which he isn't. May I suggest Charlie Coyle or Nino N? Minnesota is apparently shopping them?

 

[compan]

@compan thanks. And Nuge is nowhere near as gawd awful as Lucic is and his contract is much shorter. All previous stats aside, Nuge is now turning into a very well rounded player and he started to show it last year. The B's could secure a very good player in Nuge if he was available! May I suggest Charlie Coyle or Nino N? Minnesota is apparently shopping them?

Bruins are apparently connected to rumors around Coyle and he definitely would cost less. I'm just not sure what pieces we have available for trade are ones that Minny would be interested in.

If Boston wants to send Backes to Edmonton, maybe they'll take Lucic back.

Don't say that, some people on our board would love to have Lucic back! Something something lack of toughness.

 

[John Bruins]

RNH plays LW we don’t need RNH when we have Marchand, DeBrusk, Donato, especially when it costs us a top 4 Power play specialist Defenseman in Krug. There is NO trade to be had between Boston and Edmonton time to it shut down.

McAvoy - off the table
Carlo- off the Table
krug - (has a NMC/NTC) I very well doubt will wave to go to Edmonton
Pastrnak - signed a sweetheart deal and leading the NHL in goals

 

[BudBundy]

Carlo is a defensive dman and Edmonton could really use a good one of those. Not really a relevant point to compare point totals.

That said, no from Bruins and no from Oilers.

Lol. Like the Bruins wouldnt jump at the chance to dump Backes. I like Carlo and we could definitely use him but there needs to be a + coming with him to get Nuge, not a big headache like Backes. That’s like me saying Russell and Lucic for Marchand

 

[BudBundy]

Carlo is top 4 defensive dman that plays 20 mins per game, Nugent Hopkins is a 18 -24 goals LW which Boston doesn't need with (Marchand, DeBrusk, Donato).

Nuge has played roughly 25 games of his entire career at LW. If you’re going to low ball him, at least get his preferred position right.

 

[McFlash97]

Carlo is top 4 defensive dman that plays 20 mins per game, Nugent Hopkins is a 18 -24 goals LW which Boston doesn't need with (Marchand, DeBrusk, Donato).

..

.......pfhahahahah

Tell me most Bruins fans are legit good hockey guys...

all these guys are not a good look for most smart Bruins fans

How about a counter proposal along the same lines.

Gravel and
Spooner

for Krejci ?

But no Gravel is what the Oilers need, and Spooner really gives us that depth on wing .....

 

[easton117]

Think this is one of those ones that weren’t thought through so well.

Neither team can really afford to lose the key pieces here. I’m going to ignore the Backes part entirely.

Krug for Nuge might’ve made sense. But Krug would have to like the Edmontons for that to happen.

All in all I’m giving this one 3/10 John Fegusons. No sale

 

[compan]

Lol. Like the Bruins wouldnt jump at the chance to dump Backes. I like Carlo and we could definitely use him but there needs to be a + coming with him to get Nuge, not a big headache like Backes. That’s like me saying Russell and Lucic for Marchand

They'll read whatever they want.

Maybe I'm thinking too much into it, but I feel like it is rather shortsighted to trade our top pairing shutdown Dman who is a 22yr old RFA for a player that I'm not even sure would be used in their strength and to unload a contract for only the next couple years. Cap is increasing next year as well and maybe he even retires before his contract is up. Do we really trade Carlo, a player that we know we need for the future (@ only 22yrs old), for a couple years of cap relief and for player that would play a position that we can potentially fill in the off-season through FA? We have Bergeron and Krejci as our 1-2 down the middle. If Nug would be utilized at wing, well we have the LWs...it's the RWs we need.

But I'm sure none of the Oil fans here calling me a homer thought much into WHY it would be a no from my standpoint.

See above. Trading a 22yr old top pairing shutdown dman to dump a contract for just 2 years is shortsighted. Nug doesn't address something that we can't get through FA this upcoming off-season without needing to trade Carlo for it.

..

.......pfhahahahah

Tell me most Bruins fans are legit good hockey guys...

all these guys are not a good look for most smart Bruins fans

How about a counter proposal along the same lines.

Gravel and
Spooner

for Krejci ?

But no Gravel is what the Oilers need, and Spooner really gives us that depth on wing .....

I still don't think you've actually grasped what anybody is saying. Would you trade your 22yr old future for a top line position for a player you don't really need just so you can dump a contract for 2 years? Just because Edmonton takes the majority of the hit doesn't make the trade appealing to the Bruins. We don't need Nug...