Confirmed Signing with Link: [NSH] Kyle Turris extends with Nashville (6 years, $6M AAV)

[thadd]

Awesome deal for the Preds. They're looking pretty complete now.

 

[WaW]

Bigger markets pay bigger taxes, but they have bigger marketing opportunities.

Nashville is a unique opportunity right now of low taxes and booming city of popularity. Perfect timing for David Poile.

Marketing opportunities are overrated when it comes to hockey. This isn't basketball where players get 9-figure endorsement deals, and marketing is outside of the realm of relevance when it comes to the cap situations of teams.

The tax breaks one gets in Nashville/Tampa/Dallas are why these teams are all loaded contenders with good cap situations and can re-tool over 1 off-season to become serious contenders out of the blue.

Meanwhile, these are some of the smallest fanbases in the league. It's infuriating. Im mot saying remove the cap, just make it fair.

 

[cptjeff]

If this is all it took to sign him, why didn't Ottawa do this?

It's not as if Duchene will be cheaper, he'll likely be wanting 7M+

Turris may not have been willing to sign with Ottawa. Taxes, wanting a different climate, not liking elements of the management team, not liking how the team was built, whatever. When players don't re-sign it's not always about the team's willingness to spend. Same reason the Isles haven't extended Tavares yet- the Isles, from all accounts, are more than ready to spend what it takes, but Tavares wants the arena solved and concrete steps towards building a competitive team. Which means you should expect to see his name on one of these trade and signs later this year...

 

[SenzZen]

Best wishes to my Nashville brethren!

You’re going to love Turret!

Here’s your gif for when he scores, btw:

 

[cynicalcitizen]

Marketing opportunities are overrated when it comes to hockey. This isn't basketball where players get 9-figure endorsement deals, and marketing is outside of the realm of relevance when it comes to the cap situations of teams.

The tax breaks one gets in Nashville/Tampa/Dallas are why these teams are all loaded contenders with good cap situations and can re-tool over 1 off-season to become serious contenders out of the blue.

Meanwhile, these are some of the smallest fanbases in the league. It's infuriating. Im mot saying remove the cap, just make it fair.

Vote better.

 

[Enoch]

Wolves,

You are speaking to a Nashville Predators fan. Go cry yourself a river somewhere else. Give me a break. The Predators have literally signed zero players out from underneath any teams, ever, since the teams inception.

This is a unique opportunity, but your angst is overstated.

Your management valued Duchene, and made a move for him, for better or worse. This isn't about a small market having some unbelievable advantage over other markets.

 

[New User Name]

Damn Nashville looks great. I feel for Sens fans but Turris will be paying $846,014 less in tax each year than had be received 6 million in Ottawa.
52.96% vs 38.86%

Sadly they'll really be in trouble after next year when Matt needs to be resigned.

 

[swiftwin]

If this is all it took to sign him, why didn't Ottawa do this?

It's not as if Duchene will be cheaper, he'll likely be wanting 7M+

Because it wasn't about the money! They wanted to improve, and they did.

 

[New User Name]

Wolves,

You are speaking to a Nashville Predators fan. Go cry yourself a river somewhere else. Give me a break. The Predators have literally signed zero players out from underneath any teams, ever, in the teams inception.

This is a unique opportunity, but your angst is overstated.

Your management valued Duchene, and made a move for him, for better or worse. This isn't about a small market having some unbelievable advantage over other markets.

I'm not a Sens fan but it is an advantage. And the Sens are as small market as Nashville.

 

[Ducks in a row]

People here who are criticizing Ottawa for "not being willing to match this" are completely naive and missing the point.

This is an unfair league that heavily favours the southern low-tax markets. The NHL cap desperately needs a tax formula implemented, because most teams would not have been able to get Turris at 6 x 6, or Arvidsson at the deal he got this summer.

You can't whine about the bigger northern markets with bigger fanbases having an unfair advantage in a no-cap or high-cap league, then be okay with the way it works right now, where the southern "small hockey markets" have a ridiculous tax advantage.

No the NHL does not need that. So many things effects players signing with a team even for cheaper
like desirability of the city the team plays in or how good the team is and so on. If you adjust for 1 thing you need to adjust for everything and I wouldn't trust any adjustments made. Things the way they are is fine.

 

[ICanMotteBelieveIt]

Very solid deal. If you think about him reaching UFA status and testing the market (where someone would've overpaid him like $7.5M/year) then this is a great contract.


Forsberg
Johansen
Turris
Subban


Man Nashville are fun! Talk about doing some real good trades. Not afraid to pull the triggers! Big hair and huge trucks isn't the only big thing that they got over there in Tennessee.

 

[olli]

Poile is a genius. Too bad he couldn't get Johansen for 7 million though. 8 is just to much for a guy who is barely a 1C.

 

[ICanMotteBelieveIt]

Also smart to make this trade now. This gives them that extra gear to make the playoffs earlier. Also Turris gets a lot of time to get the chemistry going and learning their system instead of joining the team late at the TDL.

 

[ICanMotteBelieveIt]

Ottawa is so out to lunch on this trade and now the deal Turris signed.. I get if he straight up told you he wasn't resigning, that you want to trade and get something for him but to completely over pay for Duchene? Eeeek.

Also, so much for Bones going to Nash for a bigger role. RIP that decision

I think he's pretty happy though. Got a lot of $ and a way bigger chance of winning it all.

 

[WaW]

No the NHL does not need that. So many things effects players signing with a team even for cheaper
like desirability of the city the team plays in or how good the team is and so on. If you adjust for 1 thing you need to adjust for everything and I wouldn't trust any adjustments made. Things the way they are is fine.

Money is the #1 reason players sign for whom they sign. When the money you're permitted to spend is so low that certain teams have a significant advantage because of tax dollars, you have a significant fairness issue with regards to the cap...which is meant to make things fair.

Therefore the cap is a failure in itself. System is broken. There is nothing else that would need adjustment if you had a tax formula. You certainly don't adjust for anything unrelated to money anyway.

 

[Ducks in a row]

Money is the #1 reason players sign for whom they sign. When the money you're permitted to spend is so low that certain teams have a significant advantage because of tax dollars, you have a significant fairness issue with regards to the cap...which is meant to make things fair.

Therefore the cap is a failure in itself. System is broken. There is nothing else that would need adjustment if you had a tax formula. You certainly don't adjust for anything unrelated to money anyway.

Money is a factor but it isn't the one and only factor. Some players refuse to sign with certain teams and have them on no trade lists and its not because of money. Salary cap is fine as is.

 

[ViktorBaeArvidsson]

Well, Im hyped.

 

[cynicalcitizen]

Money is the #1 reason players sign for whom they sign. When the money you're permitted to spend is so low that certain teams have a significant advantage because of tax dollars, you have a significant fairness issue with regards to the cap...which is meant to make things fair.

Therefore the cap is a failure in itself. System is broken. There is nothing else that would need adjustment if you had a tax formula. You certainly don't adjust for anything unrelated to money anyway.

Weather. Don't forget a weather penalty. Scenery, maybe? Hot chick penalty?

 

[playasRus]

Poile is a genius. Too bad he couldn't get Johansen for 7 million though. 8 is just to much for a guy who is barely a 1C.

Good thing you have a guy capable of being a 1C as your 2C for 6 million

 

[PoutineSp00nZ]

Good deal for the Preds, Reportedly Turris was wanting more sounds like he was willing to take less in Nashville believe to have wanted more to stay in Ottawa.

Thats what it sounds like to me as well.

Turris will fit in perfectly in Nashville. He can be a true second line center which is where he belongs, probably score a massive goal or two in the playoffs on top of it all. He's rather clutch.

 

[LickTheEnvelope]

Good pickup by the Preds, even though I kind of like Kamenev.

 

[Wingsfan 4 life]

Money is the #1 reason players sign for whom they sign. When the money you're permitted to spend is so low that certain teams have a significant advantage because of tax dollars, you have a significant fairness issue with regards to the cap...which is meant to make things fair.

Therefore the cap is a failure in itself. System is broken. There is nothing else that would need adjustment if you had a tax formula. You certainly don't adjust for anything unrelated to money anyway.

How about just an adjustment for billionaire owners who always claim to not have a pot to piss in whenever it comes time they have to open their wallet?

 

[danielpalfredsson]

Going by what Friedman said last night: management was good to do a deal, Melnyk wouldn't though.

He did not say that. He said something like "even if Dorion wanted to do the deal...." There was no implication that Dorion wanted to re-sign Turris.

 

[lifelonghockeyfan]

Sorry that the ill informed think that hockey players play full the personnel tax rate.....they don't. So many factors including players are incorporated, so big earners pay comparatively little % in taxes, actually fewer in Canada than US.
So until you know the tax laws for each country and actually the players place of residence and other factors, stop this nonsense about unfair tax advantages.

 

[maplepred]

Pumped as a preds fan!!! Welcome to smashville Kyle!!