Depends. Might be worth taking Fantilli just to trade his rights. We'd still get the 5OA and late 2nd compensation in 2021. Add to that the draft pick haul you could get for him and it probably exceeds the value Nelson brings to the table.
My point is that there should be a better way for teams to redeem the value of that pick if the prospects threaten to defect. AFAIK the team needs to trade that player by September 15th to get the compensation along with the trade return. Fantilli making a decision on the NCAA next year doesn't do us any favors.
He is a defect. He committed to a USHL program for the 2020/21 season. If we hold onto his rights, we lose compensation. If we trade him prior to September 15, we get the trade return plus compensation.
Fair enough , I didn't understand till now. Hey , Dennis has a lot to consider for sure . Does he roll the dice and pray , or take the bird in hand with say a Nelson ( if he will report ?)
Exactly , Battalion or any other team have zero leverage , just to many options today , and if you watch the NHL draft the last few years , the NCAA is a pretty good option .
The issue is if that player decides he wants to play for a 'better' team or bigger market, there's very little to protect the smaller market teams at the draft table. You see a number of these players fall to teams in the Toronto market simply because teams ahead of them don't want to risk coming up empty handed.
Oh, I agree. There would be a significant conditional package. But teams stepping up to the plate would need to pay a price. How good of a salesman is Adam Dennis?
The 15 year old is taking the advise of his agent and parents who are just looking out for him , no problem with that. Both boys have committed to Chicago Steele , that's not a ploy , the older kid was already at prep school , trying to trade for his rights makes as much sense as giving his dad a job as stick boy, even if he was good enough . The family has made no secret that the NCAA has always been the goal , its not something that just came to light because the Battalion has the first overall pick.
He (A. Fantilli) has already bounced from one team in order to play with his big brother Luca....what makes everybody think that something like that couldn't happen again? ) (From my own 15 year old son...)
I thought kids in the OHL these days get education packages too - certainly better than the one I have in school at the moment! (LOL) I guess my issue stems from the fact that one has to declare their want/intent to be included in the draft - which from my perspective means that you "do" have an interest. If it was never an option and NCAA was his desire all along, why waste people's time to begin with? The one thing I admire the heck out of the kid for is his sense of family - more than one source has said that the brothers are incredibly close - and just as many people have inferred that if he jumped ship *once* to play alongside his big brother, there's no reason to think it couldn't happen again. Could a trade for Luca's rights from Niagara be a possibility? I looked it up on my own...Luca's stat line would suggest he has some offensive skill on the back end....13 goals, 42 points in 35 games this year, and NB is going to have an excess on the blue line in the coming season. Sounds simple - but if you get "one" of them, chances are the other could follow. May be a shot in the dark, but add that one to the long list of possibilities being discussed by all of us here.
