Value of: Nolan Patrick to Winnipeg

[PAZ]

2014 draft was suppose to be garbage, plenty of people were calling Ekblad the next EJ and Day >> Ekblad. Definitely turned out tht way.

 

[IceManCat]

Your posts are comical.

Ehlers or Trouba would not get you a top 15 pick! Delusional.

Actually they are both fantastic players and they would easily garner a top 10 pick and in the case of Ehlers a top 5 pick.

 

[Flair Hay]

Jets fans have seen how we don't need to pick top five in the draft to get one of the top five players.

Trouba and Connor for Patrick does make sense on a certain level because of the uncertainty here regarding Trouba. Duchene for Trouba after picking Patrick makes more sense though.

Chevy may not be a great GM all things considered but he will never get fleeced giving away young talent. Which is what this idea is.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

These are my favorite threads.

If you want him, root for your team to be bad enough to draft him.

 

[Tasteless Beaver]

These are my favorite threads.

If you want him, root for your team to be bad enough to draft him.

We don't even need to cheer for it..

 

[JetsHomer]

Nik Ehlers 17 year old season: 63 games, 49 goals, 55 assists, 104 points

Nolan Patrick 17 year old season: 72 games, 41 goals, 61 assists, 102 points


Can someone explain to me how Patrick is so much more valuable than Ehlers without using draft position?

 

[Blitzago*]

They aren't garbage but they also aren't as valuable as Ehlers or Trouba.

This draft class sucks

Both those player's are more valuable than Ehlers or Trouba

 

[JetsHomer]

Both those player's are more valuable than Ehlers or Trouba

why is that? Ehlers is a proven top 6 winger at 20 years old is on pace for 60+ points. He also had a better 17 year old junior season than Patrick

 

[Avalanche2133]

Nik Ehlers 17 year old season: 63 games, 49 goals, 55 assists, 104 points

Nolan Patrick 17 year old season: 72 games, 41 goals, 61 assists, 102 points


Can someone explain to me how Patrick is so much more valuable than Ehlers without using draft position?

Ain't that the year he had Drouin feeding him all season? Where as Patrick has done it with a bunch of randoms

 

[JetsHomer]

Ain't that the year he had Drouin feeding him all season? Where as Patrick has done it with a bunch of randoms

Ehlers and Drouin only played together on the PP, Patrick was on a Brandon team that contained Jayce Hawryluk (106 points in 58 games) John Quenneville (73 points in 57 games) and Ivan Provorov (73 points in 63 games)

Brandon last year was an infinitely better team than Halifax in 2013/2014

 

[LV*]

Nolan Patrick isnt that good, his upside is probably Ryan Johansen. Not saying thats a bad thing but its not good for a #1 pick

 

[Cancuks]

Patrick will have a Brayden Schenn like career.

 

[JetsHomer]

Patrick will have a Brayden Schenn like career.

I'm think him or Sam Reinhart are pretty good comparables

 

[slappipappi]

As I am a Colorado and Jets fan, I wonder what else the Jets would add to Trouba to get Patrick at #1 if Colorado lands that pick which is looking more likely every day.

It is never "likely" that any particular team lands the #1 pick.

 

[10Ducky10]

Winnipeg can send Myers and Dano and a 2nd rounder in 2017.
Otherwise, more than happy with Scheif Little and Roslo on the way.

 

[Muffin]

Nik Ehlers 17 year old season: 63 games, 49 goals, 55 assists, 104 points

Nolan Patrick 17 year old season: 72 games, 41 goals, 61 assists, 102 points


Can someone explain to me how Patrick is so much more valuable than Ehlers without using draft position?

QMJHL vs WHL, scoring is harder in the WHL.

 

[MardyBum]

Eh, if we won it i'm not even sure i'd take him, let alone trade for the pick.

 

[Gabe Kupari]

As a Jets fan, I'd have a hard time passing on that top 4 potential RHD in Liljegren... Organizationally, that's what the Jets need.

Jets are a good drafting team tho... I mean when you actually break down the drafts since they have been here...

2011- Mark Scheifele 7th
2012 - Jacob Trouba 9th
2013 - Josh Morrissey 13th
2014 - Nik Ehlers 9th
2015 - Kyler Connor 17th and Jack Roslovic 25th
2016 - Patrik Laine 2nd.

Not a bad haul for a team who has had 1 pick in the top 6 really since they relocated and that was Patrick Laine at 2...

 

[THall4]

Just because a guy is a number one pick it doesn't mean he gains some mystical abilities that make him a better hockey player, you have to actually watch guys and judge their value, and at the end of the day Patrick just isn't a guy you give up Ehlers or Trouba for. He's more of a Sam reinhart than a McDavid

Or and RNH / Sean Courturier

 

[THall4]

As a Jets fan, I'd have a hard time passing on that top 4 potential RHD in Liljegren... Organizationally, that's what the Jets need.

Jets are a good drafting team tho... I mean when you actually break down the drafts since they have been here...

2011- Mark Scheifele 7th
2012 - Jacob Trouba 9th
2013 - Josh Morrissey 13th
2014 - Nik Ehlers 9th
2015 - Kyler Connor 17th and Jack Roslovic 25th
2016 - Patrik Laine 2nd.

Not a bad haul for a team who has had 1 pick in the top 6 really since they relocated and that was Patrick Laine at 2...

Probably the best drafting team in the league...prospect pool is loaded.

 

[Ctrain2k]

Nik Ehlers 17 year old season: 63 games, 49 goals, 55 assists, 104 points

Nolan Patrick 17 year old season: 72 games, 41 goals, 61 assists, 102 points


Can someone explain to me how Patrick is so much more valuable than Ehlers without using draft position?

6'3 power forward center in a harder leauge vs smaller craft offensice player in a worse leauge

 

[kylbaz]

Not too many players I would trade Ehlers for straight up right now. Guy is going to be a star.

 

[Yukon Joe]

As a Jets fan, I'd have a hard time passing on that top 4 potential RHD in Liljegren... Organizationally, that's what the Jets need.

Jets are a good drafting team tho... I mean when you actually break down the drafts since they have been here...

2011- Mark Scheifele 7th
2012 - Jacob Trouba 9th
2013 - Josh Morrissey 13th
2014 - Nik Ehlers 9th
2015 - Kyler Connor 17th and Jack Roslovic 25th
2016 - Patrik Laine 2nd.

Not a bad haul for a team who has had 1 pick in the top 6 really since they relocated and that was Patrick Laine at 2...

I can't help but notice you didn't mention Logan Stanley, 2016 #18