Proposal: NJDevils proposals - CHI, MIN, CGY, SJS, FLA, VAN
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That Vancovuer trade is terrible for the Canucks. 3 total worthless players for a top6 W who scores at a 60pts+ rate / season and who's a pest... Why are they doing this. Not like Zacah could ever become a top6 F or like Foote had any chance of becoming one either.
Blackhawkswincup
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small props to OP SG, for at least including Holtz and 2OA in 4 of these proposals
Canucks deal only tempts Vancouver if they commit to re-signing Miller, Boeser, etc, so need to move Garland's Cap Hit, Even then, they likely can bring back a piece with higher anticipated upside, quality over quantity
seems, to me, more likely that any Zacha deal will be a "change of scenery" swap -
league seems flush with many, many young guys, already with a handful of NHL seasons, but haven't found their 'stride' or consistency
Canucks deal only tempts Vancouver if they commit to re-signing Miller, Boeser, etc, so need to move Garland's Cap Hit, Even then, they likely can bring back a piece with higher anticipated upside, quality over quantity
seems, to me, more likely that any Zacha deal will be a "change of scenery" swap -
league seems flush with many, many young guys, already with a handful of NHL seasons, but haven't found their 'stride' or consistency
HugeInTheShire
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Prepare to be roasted by 6 different fan bases, not because they are necessarily bad proposals (besides the Vancouver one) but because the Devils are receiving the best player in all 6
Gecklund
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HugeInTheShire
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Not horrible, just doesn't make a lot of sense.
If it was Zacha, Walsh and a pick, for Garland I think it's a lot closer to reality
Or Severson straight across for Garland
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That would be closer because Walsh fits a need but still would not be close to enough unless that pick is a 1st round pick (obviously not 2nd ovr)
Canucks have 0 need for Zacha. We have a worse version of him in Dickinson already. We already have too many middle 6 forwards with Hoglander/Podkolzin/Dickinson/Pearson that we should not be trading one of our 5 top 6 forwards away for another lesser piece.
We would be much better off just trading him for a better prospect + pick and signing a UFA. Zacha is easily replaceable on the UFA market. Isn't the rumor that NJ may not even qualify him due to his QO being too high for their liking? So he may be available as a UFA even.
Eggtimer
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I like the lists and would include one to the Jets for Hellebuyck .
Instead of fixed trade assets from the Devils I’d just offer a choice of players/ picks out of
#2 overall
Holtz
Ty Smith
Zacha
Foote
Id also consider moving Gritsyuk , but I don’t think other fan bases are that high on him and I see him as a prospect as good if not better than Holtz .
I have no desire to add Garland.
A proposal for Pastrnak would be cool to see as well. I’d guess it would take pick #2 plus Holtz plus ?? I know it’s very very very unlikely he is moved but if Bergeron retires and it seems that Pasta wants the moon for his next contraCTs , I could see a very slim chance that Boston might think about moving him
Instead of fixed trade assets from the Devils I’d just offer a choice of players/ picks out of
#2 overall
Holtz
Ty Smith
Zacha
Foote
Id also consider moving Gritsyuk , but I don’t think other fan bases are that high on him and I see him as a prospect as good if not better than Holtz .
I have no desire to add Garland.
A proposal for Pastrnak would be cool to see as well. I’d guess it would take pick #2 plus Holtz plus ?? I know it’s very very very unlikely he is moved but if Bergeron retires and it seems that Pasta wants the moon for his next contraCTs , I could see a very slim chance that Boston might think about moving him
Zacha makes zero sense whatsoever for the Canucks, and Nolan Foote looks like he's a career AHLr by now. Garland in an effective top6F... You aren't gtting a 60+pts winger for a 4th liner, a AHLer and a 3rd rd pick
HugeInTheShire
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The rumour of him not getting qualified came from a Vancouver reporter who was trying to acquire him without giving up anything.
Same dude said Dickinson for Zacha was reasonable... It's not.
The reason Zacha's name keeps coming up is, Vancouver wanted him. They may not want him now, but the certainly did.
Alex DeBrincat is a good player but as a Devils fan I wouldn't want to do that trade. We already have Bratt who avoids or sucks at board battles and Hughes who is great but often can get pushed around.
Meanwhile Chicago has Kane who is like Bratt but has generational talent to make up for it and they have Strome to do the physical battles.
I just don't think inserting him in NJ will lead to the same success that he has had with the Hawks.
Meanwhile Chicago has Kane who is like Bratt but has generational talent to make up for it and they have Strome to do the physical battles.
I just don't think inserting him in NJ will lead to the same success that he has had with the Hawks.
Eggtimer
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Foote looked good at the last part of the season. He missed a ton of hockey the past two years. I wouldn’t say he is a career AHL’er yet.
Huh.
If you don't mind me asking how does Debrincat's line work then? Is it mostly goals generated off the rush?
TheFridge
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Rush and possession. Debrincat will go in the corners and board battle from those three.
Strome just reaches his stick in, doesn’t use him body much of all.
You,re still asking for a top6F on a good contract for a bottom 6er with a terrible QO, a B- / C prospect and a 3rd. Gotta give to get.
Someone that small winning board batlles? Sounds like the perfect person to teach Devils players how to do that.
I take it back, I am okay with the trade.
Cat isn’t afraid to get in there.Someone that small winning board batlles? Sounds like the perfect person to teach Devils players how to do that.
I take it back, I am okay with the trade.
