Player Discussion Nikita Scherbak: Scherby-Dooby-Doo

[26Mats]

Once he is back, I would go with these lines:
Drouin - Domi - Scherbak
Tatar - Danault - Gallagher
Lehkonen - Kotkaniemi - Shaw
Hudon - Peca - Deslaurier

If Shaw plays well next game, then keep him with Drouin and put Scherbak with KK

I'd honestly be happy to see scherbak on any of the following lines:

Drouin Domi Scherbak

Lhekonen KK Scherbak

Hudon Peca Scherbak

As long as he's playing with at least 1 offensively gifted player, he has a shot at producing. His biggest area of weakness is his non-offensive game. But even with regard to his offensive game, he's not ready to carry 2 plugs. He can, however play well with other offensive players, as we saw him do in his brief stints with Galchenyuk last year. I think he'd do well playing with Domi, KK, or Hudon.

 

[DangerDave]

We're running Shaw and Hudon on the Domi line. What's their to lose putting Scherbak there.

 

[1909]

We're running Shaw and Hudon on the Domi line. What's their to lose putting Scherbak there.

Can he show a heart beat first ? Then, he could be tried....

 

[Adriatic]

Sherbak can play when he shows he has a pulse, there is no rush to play him at all.

 

[Lebowski]

We're running Shaw and Hudon on the Domi line. What's their to lose putting Scherbak there.

I agree. The Hudon experiment hasn't been very conclusive, unfortunately, and there's not much to gain from using Shaw there. Best case scenario, he'll be a capable third wheel.

We know Scherbak has the skills to play with those guys. Give him a legit chance to make it work and go from there. If it works, maybe you've found yourself a skilled top 6 winger with size. If it doesn't, then we can move on knowing we gave him a chance.

I keep coming back to the Kapanen situation in Toronto when I talk of Scherbak with the Habs. He was in a very similar situation prior to the season. The Nylander contract dispute allowed him to get some quality ice-time with Matthews, and ever since he went from a marginal asset to promising young forward... Before discarding a guy like Scherbak, I'd appreciate if we made damn sure whether he can contribute at the NHL level or not.

 

[CauZuki]

Assuming current injuries I can see:

Drouin - Domi - Hudon
Tatar - Danault - Gallagher
Lekhonen - Kotkaniemi - Scherbak
Deslauriers - Peca - Shaw

Byron/Armia injured.
Agostino back to the AHL or healthy scratch.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

"Scherbak can play when he shows a heartbeat", where is this coming from??

He looked engaged last season, and this board really liked what they saw. It was mostly positive reviews here.

After a couple preseason games and after not having played for a month, he's now a lazy player?
Seems like people are just labeling him as the typical lazy, uninterested and bad defensively russian player because they havent see him play in a while.

 

[1909]

"Scherbak can play when he shows a heartbeat", where is this coming from??

He looked engaged last season, and this board really liked what they saw. It was mostly positive reviews here.

After a couple preseason games and after not having played for a month, he's now a lazy player?
Seems like people are just labeling him as the typical lazy, uninterested and bad defensively russian player because they havent see him play in a while.

"Heart beat " also means showing that you really, really want it. The guy showed nothing at the Camp to get a regular job. A bit of poise and passion would had helped.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

"Heart beat " also means showing that you really, really want it. The guy showed nothing at the Camp to get a regular job. A bit of poise and passion would had helped.

I don't see why the few games he played in camp would matter more over what he did in the nhl last season. He didn't look good at camp 1 year ago either and people were considering him a bust, but he ended up dominating the ahl and playing well in the nhl.

Despite a bad camp, he still had 2 goals in 5 games.

 

[1909]

I don't see why the few games he played in camp would matter more over what he did in the nhl last season. He didn't look good at camp 1 year ago either and people were considering him a bust, but he ended up dominating the ahl and playing well in the nhl.

Despite a bad camp, he still had 2 goals in 5 games.

Dominating the AHL... Are you kidding ?

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

Dominating the AHL... Are you kidding ?

30 pts in 26 games?

 

[Archijerej]

We're running Shaw and Hudon on the Domi line. What's their to lose putting Scherbak there.

Zero puck retrieval ability? Destroying a productive duo by playing them with someone who doesn't compliment them in any way whatsoever?

 

[1909]

30 pts in 26 games?

Even Daniel Carr is doing as well in the AHL.....

 

[voyageur]

Hudon is not a top 6 player. Scherbak deserves a look.

If Hudon can put a few pucks in Kotkaniemi's wheelhouse that would be a bonus.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

Even Daniel Carr is doing as well in the AHL.....

Carr did well in the ahl at 24+ years old, and Scherbak did even better at 21-22 yo?
Scherbak was top 5 in ppg in the ahl last year.

and I don't see the point of this comparison. Not every player who dominate the ahl becomes a good player in the nhl, but its a pretty good sign if they do.

 

[1909]

Carr did well in the ahl at 24+ years old, and Scherbak did even better at 21-22 yo?
Scherbak was top 5 in ppg in the ahl last year.

and I don't see the point of this comparison. Not every player who dominate the ahl becomes a good player in the nhl, but its a pretty good sign if they do.

Some players are piling points in the AHL every year but are unable to make the step to the NHL.

 

[26Mats]

Even Daniel Carr is doing as well in the AHL.....

Daniel Carr should be in the NHL. I wouldn't go by Vegas personnel decisions - you're talking about a management group that traded Suzuki, Tatar and a 2nd for Pacioretty and is now out of the playoffs.

 

[Lebowski]

Some players are piling points in the AHL every year but are unable to make the step to the NHL.

What are you even arguing? That's it's somehow a bad thing he put up points in the AHL?

 

[1909]

Daniel Carr should be in the NHL. I wouldn't go by Vegas personnel decisions - you're talking about a management group that traded Suzuki, Tatar and a 2nd for Pacioretty and is now out of the playoffs.

According to this site, the VG's management and coaching staff was the best invention since sliced bread.

What are you even arguing? That's it's somehow a bad thing he put up points in the AHL?

No. But it doesn't mean he can be a full time NHL player, either.

 

[Lebowski]

No. But it doesn't mean he can be a full time NHL player, either.

Right. I don't think I've seen anyone claim he was a guaranteed top 6 winger because he could put up points in the AHL.

So again, why are you arguing that point? Sounds disingenuous.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

Some players are piling points in the AHL every year but are unable to make the step to the NHL.

and some are piling points in the ahl and make it to the nhl. Your point?
I'm sure if Scherbak struggled in the ahl last season, it would be your main argument as to why he wouldn't become an nhl player.

 

[1909]

Right. I don't think I've seen anyone claim he was a guaranteed top 6 winger because he could put up points in the AHL.

So again, why are you arguing that point? Sounds disingenuous.

Read the other posts. I was answering to them.

 

[26Mats]

According to this site, the VG's management and coaching staff was the best invention since sliced bread.

Last summer. Not the decisions made this summer.

 

[habsfan909]

Hudon is not a top 6 player. Scherbak deserves a look.

If Hudon can put a few pucks in Kotkaniemi's wheelhouse that would be a bonus.

problem with Hudon is his skill set is suited to top 6 but he's not good enough to play there.

 

[Mrb1p]

"Heart beat " also means showing that you really, really want it. The guy showed nothing at the Camp to get a regular job. A bit of poise and passion would had helped.

Yeah... and what did Hudon show at training camp? Alzner? Schlemko? Ouellet? Peca? Shaw? Armia? Dlo?

This team is filled up to the lid with AHL player, why not give Scherback a chance? There is literally nothing to lose

Zero puck retrieval ability? Destroying a productive duo by playing them with someone who doesn't compliment them in any way whatsoever?

I agree with this, I think he may be a bad fit one that line, luckily, Kotkaniemi needs talented wingers.