The Athletic - Boston NHL farm system rankings: No. 27 Boston Bruins

[DKH]

while this guy is certainly a fraud, the b's "system" isn't really that great when you line it up
vs other teams. beyond donato, there's a lot of ok guys at this point. last summer, we
were flush with maybe 15-17 guys that would definitely see nhl action (i thought probably
top 5 system in league). but things are looking very good because the roster is littered with
young talent...and agreeing with @BruinDust on the U23 list, looks like "prondog" or
whatever they call him was doing peyote when he wrote this list.

We will look back next May and I’ll post how the system was very good once again

I’m sure when the dust settles and the system adds more long term quality talent we will once again lose a few or the haters a couple more won’t post for awhile and the rest will have amnesia

It’s still solid I’m told 10-15 from someone who has forgotten more than Pronman Will ever know

Why I won’t pay for that web site hockey knowledge is GARBAGE led by this clown who I’ve kept close tabs on since he arrived and he is piss poor

 

[JoeIsAStud]

He clearly values top end upside far more side than a high floor. It rings true from all his rankings. He’d rather a guy with a 30% chance to become a #3 dman and a floor of never making the nhl than a guy with a 100% chance of being a 4 and a 20% chance of being a 3. That’s just how he does it

Yes and no, but he has a block on Axel Andersson. Bruins drafted him ahead of Lauzon. No games have really been played since then, and yet somehow Lauko is rated 7 spots higher than AA.

And AA, is certainly the High Rish High reward type with major upside and huge bust potential

 

[DrJustice]

I don't think having a good farm system is all about the blue chip prospects, which is what this list is heavily based on.

Development is just as important as drafting and the Bruins have been pretty good at it.

Guys like Grzelcyk weren't even on the radar last summer and end up contributing in a big way.

On depth alone I think they are better than 27th

 

[Blowfish]

While I may not agree with all his rankings the Chelarik one is pretty accurate. He is one of the prospects I don't get some peoples love for, unlike he who shall not be named (cough*koko*cough) who some claim was never given a real chance under Claude Chelarik played top 6 minutes and didn't produce while on Krejci's line, he played ok but if given that roll one would hope for more than 3 assists in 11 games, a number of players with more complete games could produce that offense and bring more than Chelarik.

Yup you’re not alone in this sentiment. We all see things we like dislike with prospects. I’ve always maintained he will be top 6 player. Just shit injury luck. He looked very good with Krejci and Debrusk until knee on knee with Hunwick. Hoping he has a healthy season. Anxious to see how this all shakes out. Competition with young kids at camp will be fun to watch. Why this ranking stinks.

 

[08SeaBass08]

You are overreacting. Instead of taking 3-4 years getting to the NHL, the bruins prospects took 2. Now they are no longer prospects. The Bruins youth stacks up with the best of them for not having top 5 picks over and over.

First, Strafer, my generalized criticism is in no way directed at you, to whom Pia was replying. Wanted to make sure that was clear up front, because these things can often be so easily stated poorly or misconstrued.

It's extraordinary to see many posters (in almost every thread) express views suggesting this accelerated progress has become a "problem" since the Bruins didn't win the Cup after a totally unexpected 112 point season. Then, of course, Toronto went and got Tavares to live out his childhood dream and Tampa had some conversations about acquiring Karlsson. So now these players' remarkable trajectory is keeping us from acquiring the missing pieces we need because "we'rethisclosetoStanley," and our rivals are making moves.

You're spot on about both the Bruins under 23 core stacking up with any team and also about draft position (cue the Barzal/Senyshyn replies), but it isn't enough because they didn't win the 2018 Cup, sign Tavares, or trade them all for Karlsson (or whatever player any individual poster wants to acquire). Now, the AHL and junior depth isn't as strong, so the narrative becomes "Boston has no prospects."

I'm content to take time and see what more these guys can do and I think the Bruins' future looks really strong with this U23 core. I'd rather see the Bruins win three Cups between 2022-2032 without Krejci and Chara than just one in the next two years with them.

 

[Absurdity]

His rankings so far

22. Edmonton Oilers
23. Pittsburgh Penguins
24. Anaheim Ducks
25. Columbus Blue Jackets
26. Nashville Predators
27. Boston Bruins
28. Winnipeg Jets
29. Calgary Flames
30. Tampa Bay Lightning
31. Washington Capitals

Montreal has a better farm system than Boston?

 

[Montecristo]

Montreal has a better farm system than Boston?

Pronman will say that kokliemi or whoever they took in the top 5 is a high end offensive prospect and he weights one of those ahead of an entire system of solid guys

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

Montreal has a better farm system than Boston?

This guy sucks lmao

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

All excuses aside, that is a pathetic ranking. This needs to open eyes at the top. If they were 10th I wouldn't be thrilled but 27th is seriously pitiful.

So one ranking from some hack should open the eyes of the guys at the top? That's bass ackwards type thinking.

 

[The don godfather]

Hey where is senyshyn? ?

 

[Rubber Biscuit]

Hey where is senyshyn? ?

HAVE A CHANCE
6. Ryan Fitzgerald, C, Providence-AHL
7. Jakub Lauko, LW, Chomutov-Czech Extraliga
8. Zach Senyshyn, RW, Providence-AHL
9. Jakub Zboril, D, Providence-AHL
10. Jeremy Swayman, G, Maine-Hockey East

#8

Reading is hard

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

HAVE A CHANCE
6. Ryan Fitzgerald, C, Providence-AHL
7. Jakub Lauko, LW, Chomutov-Czech Extraliga
8. Zach Senyshyn, RW, Providence-AHL
9. Jakub Zboril, D, Providence-AHL
10. Jeremy Swayman, G, Maine-Hockey East

#8

Reading is hard

What does this say?

 

[weaponomega]

Lets not overreact here. Every team's farm system go through peaks and valleys. We're in a valley now, since we graduated what, 5 players in one season. Like others have mentioned our U23 depth is absolutely insane and arguably the best and deepest I've ever seen as a nearly 30 year Bruins fan.

How about some of us cut it out with the sky is falling nonsense and wait it out a year and see what players take off in their development.

 

[Mainehockey33]

The only thing that would make this article better is if he graded each team like the other hack, I mean writer did.

Maybe both writers can get together and do a weekly power ranking each summer, I would definitely pay to read that.

 

[WhalerTurnedBruin55]

CehlArik as notable lol. I can continue picking apart his player rankings but this is all I need to tell me lacks credibility.

I mean... article aside. Every team has a Cehlarik in their system. He's done OK with his time in the NHL, his AHL performance is decent, but I wouldn't put money on him being a full time NHLer. I mean, I hope he can and will, but he's just another prospect with at BEST middle 6 potential at this point. This isn't to say he won't be, and you can call me cautiously optimistic with his progression, but he's far from a sure thing.

 

[BruinDust]

I mean... article aside. Every team has a Cehlarik in their system. He's done OK with his time in the NHL, his AHL performance is decent, but I wouldn't put money on him being a full time NHLer. I mean, I hope he can and will, but he's just another prospect with at BEST middle 6 potential at this point. This isn't to say he won't be, and you can call me cautiously optimistic with his progression, but he's far from a sure thing.

You could likely make the same statement about most of Boston's forward prospects.

Other than Donato, does any of them project as a 1st line level talent?

Doesn't make any of them bad prospects however. But if someone wants to criticize Cehlarik as being at best a middle-six guy, then that same criticism could be thrown at Senyshyn, Frederic, JFK, etc.

 

[GloryDaze4877]

I try not to get too worked up by articles like this. It’s all so subjective.

That said, I look at COL and he has the Avs rated 21, six spots ahead of Boston, but they have only one “high end” prospect and three “legit” prospects. The B’s have one “very good” prospect and four “legit” prospects.

Is Makar (but less depth) worth 6 spots? Maybe in Pronman’s mind? I think he’s underrating Frederic and Studnicka a bit.

To each his own.


ps Does anyone know which categories Pronman had Heinen, DeBrusk, and Grizz in last season?

 

[GloryDaze4877]

I got the free trial membership for the Athletic and I haven’t seen anything that makes me want to shell out $60 for a membership.

I am not a fan of Pronman and his ratings, and I’m not a huge fan of Fluto either. I’m sure there are some very good writers for other teams, but those are two of the guys I would be paying to read the most. Needless to say, I will be canceling the free trial tomorrow before the $60 fee kicks in.

 

[DKH]

while this guy is certainly a fraud, the b's "system" isn't really that great when you line it up
vs other teams. beyond donato, there's a lot of ok guys at this point. last summer, we
were flush with maybe 15-17 guys that would definitely see nhl action (i thought probably
top 5 system in league). but things are looking very good because the roster is littered with
young talent...and agreeing with @BruinDust on the U23 list, looks like "prondog" or
whatever they call him was doing peyote when he wrote this list.

The bright side is there are 4 teams worse

 

[DKH]

In your opinion, Fenway, might the Bruins be trending up, down, or holding steady?

They are trending up in a big way

Oops sorry wasn’t meant for me

Please disregard

 

[Glove Malfunction]

They are trending up in a big way

Oops sorry wasn’t meant for me

Please disregard

What makes you think we regard your posts in the first place, Dan?

 

[DKH]

You could likely make the same statement about most of Boston's forward prospects.

Other than Donato, does any of them project as a 1st line level talent?

Doesn't make any of them bad prospects however. But if someone wants to criticize Cehlarik as being at best a middle-six guy, then that same criticism could be thrown at Senyshyn, Frederic, JFK, etc.

With what they have as first liners no have much of a chance

Marchand was projected as a AHL/bottom line guy

Bergeron a second line player

There aren’t the top 5 overall draft picks but I’m confident a few of these prospects when history looks back were top 6

Last year we had Jake DeBust

Danton Heinen per one poster (snicker) comment

‘I don’t see anything special in Danton Heinen’

Very Few got it right and both were top 10 in multiple rookie categories and project as top 6 players

 

[DKH]

What makes you think we regard your posts in the first place, Dan?

I agree - easily am an outlier here and why as recently as last night I got a nasty PM claiming I’m a fraud among other things


Here to have fun and it’s apparently lost on some hockey is my third sport

 

[BruinDust]

With what they have as first liners no have much of a chance

Marchand was projected as a AHL/bottom line guy

Bergeron a second line player

There aren’t the top 5 overall draft picks but I’m confident a few of these prospects when history looks back were top 6

Last year we had Jake DeBust

Danton Heinen per one poster (snicker) comment

‘I don’t see anything special in Danton Heinen’

Very Few got it right and both were top 10 in multiple rookie categories and project as top 6 players

Totally agree. My comment was to be taken as a negative, just that criticism thrown at one guy could easily be thrown at others.

But this is HF Boards where draft position matters much more than actual on-ice results. Apparently Pronman subscribes to the same type of thinking.

 

[rfournier103]

They are trending up in a big way

Oops sorry wasn’t meant for me

Please disregard

It was late and I knew Fenway was up. I don’t have as much time to devote to following sports as I used to, so the Bruins farm system is somewhat of an unknown to me. I’m encouraged by your optimism!