Speculation: NHL 2021 Entry Draft -- "Don't Call It A Rebuild"

[wahsnairb]

I’ve flopped at this point from really wanting Clarke to really wanting Hughes (Beniers is up there in a 1a/1b situation)

 

[bwana63]

I’ve flopped at this point from really wanting Clarke to really wanting Hughes (Beniers is up there in a 1a/1b situation)

I wanted Kathy Ireland, but, sadly, it never happened. Gonna need a metric $hit ton of luck from Uncle Gary. May not even make the lottery. Not that I'm complaining.

FWLIW, agreed on Hughes and Beniers. Lotta time for movement though.

 

[wahsnairb]

I wanted Kathy Ireland, but, sadly, it never happened. Gonna need a metric $hit ton of luck from Uncle Gary. May not even make the lottery. Not that I'm complaining.

FWLIW, agreed on Hughes and Beniers. Lotta time for movement though.

LOL

I won’t be bummed if we play too well to grab them. I think we should all be really excited about the youngsters we have stocked up at this point already.

 

[giza]

and maybe adding Damir Zhadyov to the equation too.....

 

[Teemu]

First round update. Still very preliminary and a lot of hockey left to be played and watched. Mostly just posting it so that folks can get an idea of some names to watch if we end up in the 10th-20th overall range. Definitely warming to Hughes #1 but not quite there yet.

1 Matthew Beniers
2 Luke Hughes
3 Owen Power
4 Brandt Clarke
5 William Eklund
6 Aatu Raty
7 Simon Edvinsson
8 Fabian Lysell
9 Kent Johnson
10 Jesper Wallstedt
11 Cole Sillinger
12 Chaz Lucius
13 Zachary L'Heureux
14 Dylan Guenther
15 Mason McTavish
16 Simon Robertsson
17 Carson Lambos
18 Scott Morrow
19 Oskar Olausson
20 Sasha Pastujov
21 Stanislav Svozil
22 Fyodor Svechkov
23 Matthew Coronato
24 Samu Salminen
25 Prokhor Poltapov
26 Xavier Bourgault
27 William Stromgren
28 Jack Peart
29 Liam Gilmartin
30 Jake Martin
31 Brennan Othmann
32 Isak Rosen

I think Svechkov will be your Marat this year @Kevin Musto

 

[echlfreak]

and maybe adding Damir Zhadyov to the equation too.....

Damir Zhafyarov would be a nice free add. I still would like to see Chicago grab Okulov. I swear the KHL Twitter feed has him scoring a highlight goal every week. Usually a GWG.

 

[Kevin Musto]

I think Svechkov will be your Marat this year @Kevin Musto

On my radar, but haven't watched him yet. Thanks for the heads up

 

[Teemu]

 

[Larmer83]

First round update. Still very preliminary and a lot of hockey left to be played and watched. Mostly just posting it so that folks can get an idea of some names to watch if we end up in the 10th-20th overall range. Definitely warming to Hughes #1 but not quite there yet.

1 Matthew Beniers
2 Luke Hughes
3 Owen Power
4 Brandt Clarke
5 William Eklund
6 Aatu Raty
[/USER]

Like the list. Raty at #6 is a big stretch for me.

 

[Teemu]

Edit: Whoops wrong thread

 

[hawksrule]

 

[echlfreak]

With all the injuries Toews, Dach, Strome, Carlsson, Shaw, Seabrook, Smith, Nylander, it will be interesting how they adjust and continue the same success.

At the TDL, these guys could be good trade pieces to add to the rebuild:
Janmark
Wallmark
Zadorov
Soberberg
deHann
Strome

FTR, I am very happy with how the team has done so far. It’s nice to see the, win games. I’m not sure it’s sustainable and think it’s still important to rebuild this team with picks and young players.

The D core is looking strong with Boqvist, Beaudin, Carlsson, Mitchell, Kalynuk

Forwards need more high end prospects to add to Dach, Suter, DeBrincat, Kubalik, Reichel, Hagel, Kurashev.

Goalies have had a pleasant surprise in Lankinen. Subban is trending up. Delia probably has one last chance to prove himself, but it will take an injury or getting picked up on waivers.

 

[Cold Steel on Ice]

I would like to see a good sized winger with an edge that can score added to the mix.

 

[echlfreak]

I would like to see a good sized winger with an edge that can score added to the mix.

like Saad?

 

[HawksDub89]

I would like to see a good sized winger with an edge that can score added to the mix.

Cole Sillinger.

Has a big shot, and is responsible defensively. Been absolutely ripping apart the USHL.

I love his game. If we keep winning and he keeps playing well he might be out of reach.

(this is all assuming we pick in the 16-20.range )

 

[hawksrule]

Cole Sillinger.

Has a big shot, and is responsible defensively. Been absolutely ripping apart the USHL.

I love his game. If we keep winning and he keeps playing well he might be out of reach.

(this is all assuming we pick in the 16-20.range )

I'm the first to admit that I don't watch these guys as amateurs other than a few wjc games, but from what I've read on Sillinger the knock is that he's slow.

 

[HawksDub89]

I'm the first to admit that I don't watch these guys as amateurs other than a few wjc games, but from what I've read on Sillinger the knock is that he's slow.

He’s not slow, his speed is average.

The knock is his stride, which needs work but can be fixed. He’s certainly not slow.

Slow is pretty hyperbolic, imo.

 

[Giovi]

He’s not slow, his speed is average.

The knock is his stride, which needs work but can be fixed. He’s certainly not slow.

Slow is pretty hyperbolic, imo.

If I had a dollar for every time I read "average speed, but it's fixable" about a prospect who went on to be a player with below average wheels, I'd be rich.

And below average wheels are more of a detriment than ever in the hockey world.

 

[Pez68]

Yeah. Fixing someone's stride in their late teens typically doesn't happen. You can work on speed with explosiveness training, but if someone has a flawed stride? Nah. Not really.

 

[Giovi]

Yeah. Fixing someone's stride in their late teens typically doesn't happen. You can work on speed with explosiveness training, but if someone has a flawed stride? Nah. Not really.

See; Strome, Dylan.

 

[HawksDub89]

If I had a dollar for every time I read "average speed, but it's fixable" about a prospect who went on to be a player with below average wheels, I'd be rich.

And below average wheels are more of a detriment than ever in the hockey world.

Ok, but I said average right?

Also, improving a stride vs saying he’ll suddenly be fixed and speedy player are fairly different chief.

 

[HawksDub89]

Yeah. Fixing someone's stride in their late teens typically doesn't happen. You can work on speed with explosiveness training, but if someone has a flawed stride? Nah. Not really.

Based on what?

 

[Pez68]

Based on what?

Human nature. Fixing someone's stride is unlearning YEARS of muscle memory. Then reteaching it. There are also the physical aspects to skating that need to be rectified. It's seriously one of the most difficult aspects of a hockey player to remedy. It almost never happens. Guys either learn to be effective with the skating they have, or they don't.

 

[HawksDub89]

Human nature. Fixing someone's stride is unlearning YEARS of muscle memory. Then reteaching it. There are also the physical aspects to skating that need to be rectified. It's seriously one of the most difficult aspects of a hockey player to remedy. It almost never happens. Guys either learn to be effective with the skating they have, or they don't.

There’s a difference between improving a stride/cleaning it up vs completely changing it. (And I agree changing it is a complete waste of time at 17/18)

Evan Barratt is an absolutely perfect example. Brutal skating in his early days in the USDP (I watched him live, it wasn’t good). He’s still not a “good” skater, but he’s at least pro average and his stride is much cleaner.

 

[Giovi]

Ok, but I said average right?

Sorry for the edits.

Average skating at lower levels equates to bad wheels at the NHL level. When someone says "it's fixable" that is an admission it needs to be fixed.