NHL 16 player overalls predictions thread

[VLU5]

Can people calm down. He hasn't played a single game in the NHL yet it's not fair to call someone a top 10 before their first game.

Dude...

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

Datsyuk isn't top 10 and Zetterberg plays more wing than center now.

Cut those two, put in Giroux and Backstrom, Toews comes down 2 points.

Datsyuk is 37 years old and is still a top 5 center in the league Cut the hate.

Zetterberg played way more center then wing LAST season so you my friend are just wrong.

 

[Shrimper]

47. PHIL KESSEL (89) OVERALL – PITTSBURGH PENGUINS

Still not used to that.

Also, Sid a 96. Damn.

 

[NHLNUT04]

EA Sports NHL 16: Top-Rated Players

An overview of the top-rated players in the upcoming EA Sports NHL 16 video game.

EA Sports NHL 16: Top-Rated Players

 

[KingBrian]

Most undeserving stats in Nhl 15 (top 50)

Ea just released the top 50 player ratings....What are the most undeserving stat/stats that you have found so far? I think Crosby's 93 defensive awareness, compared to Weber's 92 is the worst so far
https://www.easports.com/nhl/news/2015/nhl-16-player-ratings-top-50
http://nhlguides.net/player-attributes/

 

[piikerr]

Shouldnt this be NHL16?

Also Kessel...
Bodychecking: 80
Shot blocking: 80
Def Awareness: 84
Fighting skill : 70

 

[um]

They made Backstrom a good skater, they also decided everyone's shot is just a touch bellow Stamkos and Ovechkin.

 

[Alexander the Gr8]

Best of the top 50 in each category:

Deking: Kane (96)
Hand-eye: Crosby, Ovechkin, Perry, Kane (95)
Passing: Crosby (95)
Puck control: Crosby (95)

Slap shot accuracy: Ovechkin (94)
Slap shot power: Weber (95)
Wrist shot accuracy: Ovechkin, Tarasenko (94)
Wrist shot power: Ovechkin (95)

Acceleration: Kane (95)
Agility: Kane (95)
Balance: Ovechkin (94)
Endurance: Doughty (92)
Speed: Hall (95)

Discipline: Datsyuk (95)
Offensive awareness: Crosby (95)
Poise: Toews, Kane (95)

Defensive awareness: Toews (94)
Faceoffs: Toews, Bergeron (95)
Shot blocking: Weber (93)
Stick checking: Crosby, Toews, Weber, Suter (93)

Aggressiveness: Perry, Subban (90)
Body checking: Weber (92)
Durability: Toews, Weber, Ovechkin, Keith, Perry, Hossa (90)
Fighting skill: Weber, Kesler (85)
Strength: Weber, Ovechkin, Hedman (93)

The two names that come up the most in this list are Weber and Ovechkin. These two and Crosby will be the OP players of the game.

 

[SAADfather]

Crosby with higher defensive awarness than Hossa... lol.

 

[Psyfer]

Just glad ratings are editable this year because they need a lot of work.

 

[Trap Jesus]

Defensive awareness: Toews (94)
Faceoffs: Toews, Bergeron (95)
Stick checking: Crosby, Toews, Weber, Suter (93)

Ugh, give me a break. Faceoffs are pretty much the only thing you can't screw up because stats don't lie in that regard. What could possibly be the justification to put Toews up at #1?

Lol and then Giroux is at 85 and Pavelski is at 80. The attention to detail by EA is just horrific for things like this.

 

[SAADfather]

Ugh, give me a break. Faceoffs are pretty much the only thing you can't screw up because stats don't lie in that regard. What could possibly be the justification to put Toews up at #1?

Lol and then Giroux is at 85 and Pavelski is at 80. The attention to detail by EA is just horrific for things like this.

Besides the fact that Toews is elite in faceoffs literally every season? 56.5% last year, 57.3% in 13-14, 59.9% in 12-13, 59.4% in 11-12, 56.7% in 10-11, 57.4% in 09-10. It's very clearly you that needs to pay better attention to detail.

 

[Trap Jesus]

Besides the fact that Toews is elite in faceoffs literally every season? 56.5% last year, 57.3% in 13-14, 59.9% in 12-13, 59.4% in 11-12, 56.7% in 10-11, 57.4% in 09-10. It's very clearly you that needs to pay better attention to detail.

Did I say he wasn't good, even great at them? The "best" is what I have an issue with. There's just no way he should be considered at Bergeron's level for this, especially considering Bergeron is coming off a historic season for faceoffs (60.2% while taking the most faceoffs in the league is absurd). EA made a conscious decision to put Toews' defensive awareness, faceoffs, and stick checking as the best in the league.

When you look at players like Pavelski and Giroux, how could they be considered so far below Toews (or others that are undeservedly way higher) for faceoffs? Giroux in particular showed an incredible amount of improvement in this facet of his game this year, yet they churned out the exact same rating for him as they did last year (just looked it up). For Pavelski, I think EA just never realized that he is awesome at faceoffs, because I remember this issue with him before.

Is there one argument to support Tavares being better at faceoffs than Pavelski? It's just so unbelievably lazy. Such a simple thing to get right, and it's way out of whack. It's almost like they're drawing numbers out of a hat.

 

[Alexander the Gr8]

Ugh, give me a break. Faceoffs are pretty much the only thing you can't screw up because stats don't lie in that regard. What could possibly be the justification to put Toews up at #1?

Lol and then Giroux is at 85 and Pavelski is at 80. The attention to detail by EA is just horrific for things like this.

Toews is overrated. In other news, the sky is blue.
He's not the only one, Crosby is also overrated in the game. He has higher defensive awareness than Hossa

 

[SAADfather]

Did I say he wasn't good, even great at them? The "best" is what I have an issue with. There's just no way he should be considered at Bergeron's level for this, especially considering Bergeron is coming off a historic season for faceoffs (60.2% while taking the most faceoffs in the league is absurd). EA made a conscious decision to put Toews' defensive awareness, faceoffs, and stick checking as the best in the league.

When you look at players like Pavelski and Giroux, how could they be considered so far below Toews (or others that are undeservedly way higher) for faceoffs? Is there one argument to support Tavares being better at faceoffs than Pavelski? It's just so unbelievably lazy. Such a simple thing to get right, and it's way out of whack. It's almost like they're drawing numbers out of a hat.

Toews isnt "the best" at faceoffs in the game. He's tied with Bergeron. I have no problem with that. How exactly is Toews not on Bergeron's level? They are two of the best faceoff men in the buisness. Some years Toews has beaten Bergeron in faceoff % and more of the years Bergeron has gotten the better of Toews. Maybe Bergeron could have been a 96. If thats really what set you off about these ratings, you should go threw and look at some of the other ones (Crosby being one of the best defensive forwards in the game stands out)

I'm not saying some of the faceoff ratings arent moronic. I think once they get outside the top 10 they dont care too much and put in random inputs.

 

[Trap Jesus]

Toews is overrated. In other news, the sky is blue.
He's not the only one, Crosby is also overrated in the game. He has higher defensive awareness than Hossa

Yep, Crosby - 93 defensive awareness vs. Kopitar - 90 defensive awareness? Crosby with the same defensive awareness as Bergeron? Just crazy, and you'd be hard pressed to find any intelligent hockey fan that didn't think the same thing. At least there's a level of subjectivity to that though. With faceoffs, there isn't. You can certainly break faceoffs down by more than just percentage (how many they took, who they took them against, how consistent they were, etc.), but everything still is just in the numbers. It's the main reason why it really stood out to me.

 

[Trap Jesus]

Toews isnt "the best" at faceoffs in the game. He's tied with Bergeron. I have no problem with that. How exactly is Toews not on Bergeron's level? They are two of the best faceoff men in the buisness. Some years Toews has beaten Bergeron in faceoff % and more of the years Bergeron has gotten the better of Toews. Maybe Bergeron could have been a 96. If thats really what set you off about these ratings, you should go threw and look at some of the other ones (Crosby being one of the best defensive forwards in the game stands out)

I'm not saying some of the faceoff ratings arent moronic. I think once they get outside the top 10 they dont care too much and put in random inputs.

This isn't just an anti-Toews rant. I think it's just a great example of what is wrong with EA's ratings. If they aren't just completely lazy and input the same attributes as last year (which is usually the case), they go in with these preconceived notions of what they want and skew the numbers to support that just so they get the overall they want. I'm assuming Crosby's defensive awareness was just to boost that overall total.

As for faceoffs, you'll notice that Bergeron has been a decent margin ahead of Toews for a while now. Toews more or less entered the league as a faceoff wunderkind; he's blessed with remarkable quickness and hand-eye coordination. With Bergeron, while he obviously isn't devoid of those qualities, it's been a career long progression where he's kept working at it and getting better, and he's the best he's ever been right now. The last years that Toews was ahead was 2011/12 and 2010/11, both by the smallest margin of 0.1%. Since then, Bergeron is at 60% (4567 total faceoffs), and Toews is at 57.6% (4152 total faceoffs). That's a sizable gap that should be recognized, and the gap was the widest last season at 3.7%. It just doesn't add up to being equal.

It shouldn't be, "Yeah, I think these guys are known for being good at faceoffs and are well-known Selke candidates so we should try to boost their overall defensive rating more. 95 seems right." Put some damn effort into it, especially if you're going to do a reveal like this.

I'll be interested in seeing Thornton's faceoff rating. Guarantee it's stuck at 85 despite the fact that he's become one of the most dominant faceoff guys in the league. Hell, it might be lower because the general perception of Thornton's game has gone down a bit since then.

 

[kassian]

EA's NHL ratings are always dreadful. They're definitely not made by someone with hockey knowledge. I remember when a year or two back they had Datsyuk with a lower deking than Kane, Toews, Kessel, Backstrom, Ovechkin, Crosby, Stamkos, Tavares, Giroux, Parise (and the same as Getzlaf, Perry, Zetterberg and many others). This is not a joke btw. And Ovechkin had 84 slap shot power.

 

[SAADfather]

This isn't just an anti-Toews rant. I think it's just a great example of what is wrong with EA's ratings. If they aren't just completely lazy and input the same attributes as last year (which is usually the case), they go in with these preconceived notions of what they want and skew the numbers to support that just so they get the overall they want. I'm assuming Crosby's defensive awareness was just to boost that overall total.

As for faceoffs, you'll notice that Bergeron has been a decent margin ahead of Toews for a while now. Toews more or less entered the league as a faceoff wunderkind; he's blessed with remarkable quickness and hand-eye coordination. With Bergeron, while he obviously isn't devoid of those qualities, it's been a career long progression where he's kept working at it and getting better, and he's the best he's ever been right now. The last years that Toews was ahead was 2011/12 and 2010/11, both by the smallest margin of 0.1%. Since then, Bergeron is at 60% (4567 total faceoffs), and Toews is at 57.6% (4152 total faceoffs). That's a sizable gap that should be recognized, and the gap was the widest last season at 3.7%. It just doesn't add up to being equal.

It shouldn't be, "Yeah, I think these guys are known for being good at faceoffs and are well-known Selke candidates so we should try to boost their overall defensive rating more. 95 seems right." Put some damn effort into it, especially if you're going to do a reveal like this.

I'll be interested in seeing Thornton's faceoff rating. Guarantee it's stuck at 85 despite the fact that he's become one of the most dominant faceoff guys in the league. Hell, it might be lower because the general perception of Thornton's game has gone down a bit since then.

No, I get that it wasnt an anti-Toews rant even though I took your first post as just hating on Toews. Sometimes its hard to distinguish the people like 19Backstrom who just mindlessly hate on Toews. Like I said, Bergeron should probably be +1 on Toews if anything. I think faceoffs can fluxuate a lot for a variety of reasons. One being strength of competition in the faceoff circle. I'm not going to actually research it because this isn't something I care too greatly about but I'd think that Toews faces better faceoff men on a regular basis because theres alot better centers out west. Just looking at the top FO % from last year, a good chunk of those guys are out west. And I know alot of them get matched up against Toews regularly when the Hawks play them. Kesler, Thornton, Backes, Koivu, all above 55% and all guys that regularly get matched up against Toews.

I'd agree on Thornton, he should at least be a 90 in the faceoff circle.

 

[Sting]

The problem is they use one scout of unknown experience to determine ratings across the board. This naturally results in that one individual not possibly being able to see everyone, making them unfit to assign ratings to players.

When I see Phil Kessel having more strength and bodychecking than Erik Karlsson for example, I wonder how often this scout has watched a lot of these players.

If they were smart, they'd hire 3-4 people, assign them specific leagues/teams, and split up the pay for less work.

 

[Evgeni McCrosby*]

All Player Ratings revealed

www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vOUPaaOW90

 

[Stud Muffin]

All Player Ratings revealed

www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vOUPaaOW90

Nuge lost one overall and an inch from his player after his best season the wings have some rigged up stats two

 

[DonskoiDonscored]

All Player Ratings revealed

www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vOUPaaOW90

So no more "silver" potential. Interesting...

 

[The Great Weal]

Markov was an 87. Has a 50 point season goes 2 overalls lower... And DSP with 4.5 skating LOL.

 

[Wooren]

I love how Mozik, who came from Europe and didn't play a single NHL game is automatically worse by like 20 points than garbage players like Glass, Rinaldo, Scott... I can assure he is much better than those goons.

Jaskin is better than Pastrnak? What are they smoking.
Sekac is two points worse than DSP. I remember when the trade happened, and a lot of people said Sekac has more potential while DSP is better right now. Except in this game they have same potential and DSP is straight better.

In the end, there are a lot of weird overalls. (Staal bros are better than Sedins etc.)