NHL 13 Player Ratings

[Billy Mays Here*]

Hamhuis as good as Suter.

 

[LeafsTFC]

I redo all of the ratings anyway, so I figured I'd post them, starting with the Northeast division.

They might not be perfect, but at least they're more consistent than EA's... seriously it's like a different person rated each player.

These are so much better (Leafs-wise at least). I would up Liles and Gunnarson a few points each though, considering where you have Sekera, Phillips (etc.) rated. They both deserve to be low 80s. Maybe bump Franson up 1 or 2 so he's at least not equal with Komisarek.

 

[AgentM]

I redo all of the ratings anyway, so I figured I'd post them, starting with the Northeast division.

They might not be perfect, but at least they're more consistent than EA's... seriously it's like a different person rated each player.

I like these, far more realistic than EA's IMO. Please post the rest of the league too!

 

[IPreferPi]

My redone Yotes ratings.

Forwards:

S. Doan 83 (82) +1
R. Vrbata 83 (82) +1
A. Vermette 82 (73) +9
M. Boedker 81 (78) +3
M. Hanzal 81 (80) +1
L. Korpikowski 80 (81) -1
S. Sullivan 79 (79) +0
B. Gordon 78 (77) +1
R. Torres 77 (75) +2
D. Moss 77 (78) -1
C. Johnson (75)
K. Chipchura 74 (73) +1
P. Bissonnette 69 (69) +0

Defensemen:

OEL 86 (82) +4
K. Yandle 85 (83) +2
Z. Michalek 84 (86) -2
R. Klesla 83 (82) +1
D. Morris 81 (83) -2
D. Schlemko 77 (77) +0
M. Stone (77)
C. Summers (76)

Goalies:

M. Smith 86 (84) +2
J. LaBarbera 77 (77) +0

 

[5 14 6 1]

How is it possible that Adam Larsson is ranked 4 points higher than RNH? Also I'm wondering why exactly RNH went down 3 points overall from last years game..?

Here's my Oiler Overalls updated (Original rating in brackets)

Left Wing

Taylor Hall 84 (84) +- 0
Ryan Smyth 80 (81) -1
Eager 75 (74) +1
Hordichuk 71 (71) +- 0

Center

Ryan Nugent Hopkins 84 (80) +4
Sam Gagner 81 (81) +-0
Shawn Horcoff 80 (82) -2
Eric Belanger 78 (78) +-0

Right Wing

Jordan Eberle 86 (84) +2
Ales Hemsky 83 (83) +-0
Ryan Jones 79 (79)+-0
Lennart Petrell 73 (73) +-0

Defense

Ladislav Smid 82 (81) +1
Jeff Petry 81 (77) +4
Ryan Whitney 83 (85) -2
Nick Schultz 83 (84) -1
Andy Sutton 77 (74) +3
Theo Peckham 75 (77) -2
Corey Potter 76 (76) +-0


Goalies

Dubnyk 81 (80) +1
Khabibulin 79 (77) +2

 

[Holtz My Bahls]

Also, the reigning EC champs are evidently, the 2nd worst team in the conference?

Columbus of the East brah. 3.5 offense...

 

[Holtz My Bahls]

I am guessing Larsson is higher than RNH because he is a d-man but its EA, who knows?

 

[n00bxQb]

Also I'm wondering why exactly RNH went down 3 points overall from last years game..?

Because last year, half of the OVR for a Playmaker last year came from 3 attributes (Off. Awareness, Passing, and Puck Control). This year, they're basing OVR on position not player type and a Player's OVR is likely no longer controlled by 3-5 attributes of 24.

 

[JackFr]

Glad to see they went over well... here's the Atlantic.

 

[David71]

EA NHL headquarters is located in Vancouver, what a coincidence!!

lapierre should be at least 80. malhotra 79.

 

[David71]

schiender an 83? at least bump him to 85,

 

[AIexisLafreniereNYR]

Ryan Miller a 92? Don't even get me started..

 

[Natey]

Glad to see they went over well...

The only ones I don't agree with for MTL are Kaberle, Eller, and Markov.

Markov should be way higher, but with a ridiculously low durability. There's no proof to say that Markov isn't going to be the same amazing defenseman when he returns. But there is proof that he has had injury problems the last few years. I'd have him around an 87, with a durability ~50.

Kaberle was on pace for 42-points (over 82-games) with MTL. While his defense and physical skills are lacking, he's still an extremely efficient point producer in the right situation. I'd probably have him around 82.

Eller -- I agree with EA's rating on. He's can score 20-goals a year (maybe more with the right wingers), he's good defensively, but he's still underdeveloped. I'd be comfortable with the 80 rating.

And actually, I'd make Gomez a 74, just to solidify his spot as the worst player on the team.

 

[OTP Legend*]

Yeah I agree Markov should be higher. He was a beauty before all the injuries. It's like they've just downgraded him to a bottom pairing guy.

 

[strattonius]

My god people. The overall rankings is just an equation used to determine a players effectiveness.

If you want to bash the ratings system, check out the individual skills and see if they are off.

The whining in this thread is unbearable. Play the game and see how it runs. Who cares about a stupid overall number? That is the least important number.

 

[n00bxQb]

http://www.easports.com/nhl/news/article/nhl-13-player-ratings

HL 13 Player Ratings





Last week in partnership with the Yahoo! Sports’ Puck Daddy blog we released the overall player ratings for EA SPORTS NHL 13. You can read those ratings here for the Western Conference and here for the Eastern Conference.

In today’s Ratings Deep Dive the production team explains what goes into determining how the players are rated.

Hi I’m Gurn Sumal Game Modes Producer on NHL 13. As many of you know we released our new overall rating system for NHL 13 and I wanted to share with you how the player ratings are decided and how our new system changes how players are rated for NHL 13.

A lot of people assume that we here at EA Canada create the ratings for the players and that the ratings are based off of statistics. In truth the ratings are delivered to us by a scout.

Each region has its own scout that does his region’s ratings. The regions themselves are as follows North America, Scandinavia, Switzerland, Germany and the Czech Republic.

The scouts rate the players against players from all over the world, and not just their own leagues. This means that a star in Germany will not be as good as a star in the NHL but that German player might make a serviceable NHLer or a star AHL player.

The scouts base players off individual skills and not by how many points they accumulate in a season. Relying only on stats would leave too many variables in play, including line mates, ice time, strength of competition and so on. By creating ratings based on individual skill at every attribute our scouts are able to more accurately capture the abilities of a player as opposed to artificially inflating them because he happened to have a great year and everything happened to click for him.

Michael Ryder is a good example of this. Last year he had his second best season in the NHL ever by putting up 35 goals and 62 points. Ryder was a solid top 9 forward who has shown tremendous goal scoring capability, but with his 62pts he scored more points than Corey Perry (Hart, Richard winner), Rick Nash (Richard Winner), Ryan Getzlaf, Dustin Brown and David Backes just to name a few. Most people would agree that Ryder was not a better player than those others, thus his ratings reflect what he does best which is getting open and firing that amazing shot of his.

There are two reasons why we went ahead and decided to change the overall system for NHL 13. The first reason is because of you the fans, for years I have been reading the forums of people alluding that they would like a much wider distinction between superstars, stars and the third liners of the NHL and this was a way for us to do so.

The second reason is the GM Brain, because we had gone through a full rewrite of a lot of GM Connected and Be A GM logic we thought it was a good idea to pull add in the greater distinction of player skill levels. This affects GM Connected through player roles and how the CPU assigns and values players.

So what is overall in NHL 13? The overall is a value given to a player for his overall skill in a player’s given position.

Each Position has its own weighted formula that provides an overall. While a forward’s offensive statistics will lead to a higher increase of their overall that does not mean that defense doesn’t matter. Overall is the “Overall” ability of that player and that does includes both offense and defense.

Pavel Datsyuk is a perfect example of this is as he’s often called a “complete” player. Offensively he is every bit as skilled as Steven Stamkos and Alexander Ovechkin. Defensively Pavel Datsyuk is one of the best if not the best in the world and this is what separates him from both Stamkos and Ovechkin.

Again you have to remember just because all of these players are forwards does not mean that defense does not count to their overall. Yes, a forward’s main objective is to produce offense but in hockey a forward must be able to play defense. While Ovechkin and Stamkos are not defensive liabilities they do not excel at the defensive side of the game. Pavel Datsyuk on the other hand excels at playing both offensively and defensively which is why his overall is higher.

Another example is when you look at a player like Mike Richards (87) compared to Anze Kopitar (86) the difference in overall is very small. When you look at Kopitar’s Offensive Ratings they are slightly better than Richards’ but Richards has much better defensive and physical attributes and that is enough for him to overcome Kopitar’s offensive edge.

Now because we stretched out the Overall value to allow for more variation there is not a one to one correlation of what a player’s overall means anymore when compared to past games. So below is a list of what an overall generally corresponds to in terms of a Player Role in NHL 13.

NHL Forwards:

1st line Player 84-99

2nd line Player 81- 85

3rd line scorers/checkers 77-82

4th line players/minor league call-up 63-74

NHL Defensemen:

Top 2 Dman 86-99

Top 4 Dman 81-86

Top 6 Dman 76-81

Top 8 Dman/minor league call-up 72-75

NHL Goalies:

Elite 87-92

Starter 81-87

Backup 73-80

Minor League Starter (call-up) 69-73

As you can see from above, a 78 overall player is not necessarily as bad a rating as it used to be in previous NHL games. A 78 is now a serviceable NHL player that can either be a scorer or checking forward, a regular NHL defenseman or a Backup Goalie. You will also notice that there is some overlap between different roles. That is because a player could be as high an overall as say a 2nd line player but his overall is high because of his defensive attributes and not because of his offensive skill so he would not qualify to be a 2nd line player but rather a really good 3rd line checker because he does not meet the offensive requirement to be a 2nd line player.

Thanks for reading and I hope this gives you a new insight into how the new overall ratings system determines how your favorite players will perform in NHL 13. Be sure to pick up a copy of NHL 13 when it hits the shelves on September 11th, 2012.

*waits for obligatory non-sensible rebuttal from GLaDOS*

 

[King In The North]

He is if he's strong in the areas that are heavily weighted. The common theme, as I've said many times, is that physicality, skating, and defense are all strong points of the top-rated dmen. Hamhuis is strong in all of those areas

I'm sure someone in Hamilton watched more Canucks games than I did . And Hamhuis finished 10th in Norris voting, so clearly many in the media agree he's one of the best in the league.

I've heard directly from the devs that they have a scouting agency do their ratings. You're the one making claims otherwise based purely on speculation, so the onus is on you, buddy ...

LOL me living in Hamilton has nothing to do with anything. I watch my fair share of Canucks games. So there goes that.

Secondly, what have I exactly claimed? When you made yours, I asked for proof. You also fail to mention Hamhuis had 0 first place Norris votes. He placed 10th on points...no one voted for him to place, had one 2nd place vote and zero third place votes.

 

[n00bxQb]

Proof ignored ...

 

[Minor Boarding]

http://www.easports.com/nhl/news/article/nhl-13-player-ratings


*waits for obligatory non-sensible rebuttal from GLaDOS*

Maybe they should consider hiring a scout that can see and is sober then.

 

[King In The North]

Proof ignored ...

"we decided to change the overall system" and "we stretched out the Overall value to allow for more variation".

Hamhuis skills determined and delivered by scouts, then his overall rating is refined and finalized by EA.

 

[PullHard]

My god people. The overall rankings is just an equation used to determine a players effectiveness.

If you want to bash the ratings system, check out the individual skills and see if they are off.

The whining in this thread is unbearable. Play the game and see how it runs. Who cares about a stupid overall number? That is the least important number.

 

[paintball0531]

not sure if players in ultimate team have different ratings but in the demo Fowler is a 82 not a 77. Perry 87 not 88 and malkin is a 89 these are all different from the so called "released ratings"......


Does anyone know if EA actually released those or did someone else?

 

[RNH 93 rulz]

Hamhuis as good as Suter.

yeah, its kind of weird...

 

[plaaplaa72]

not sure if players in ultimate team have different ratings but in the demo Fowler is a 82 not a 77. Perry 87 not 88 and malkin is a 89 these are all different from the so called "released ratings"......


Does anyone know if EA actually released those or did someone else?

HUT has different ratings.

 

[Natey]

Hamhuis as good as Suter.

I know, right?

Suter isn't even on the same planet as Hamhuis. Either bump Hamhuis or push Suter down a few knocks.