Next 2018 Actual Off-Season Thread

[magnumpi]

lol, so tampa is making 10 straight finals.

just fold the team!!!

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

There’s not a team in the league that could make the conference finals ten straight years nonetheless the finals. It’s not the NBA.

 

[mja]

I honestly don’t care about MacDonald & Weise. I’m totally content with waiting out their contracts to expire. They’re here two more years tops. Ryan could be here longer than that & very well could trend to Filppula territory.

I don’t want Bobby Ryan’s contract period. It’s one of the worst contracts in the league.

If you couldn’t re-sign Karlsson regardless of whatever reason you’d be the first team that Melynk & Dorion swindled.

Again, I'm not saying I'm being rational right now. It's just that there's this path to getting Karlsson at a discount and it's like a Siren luring a ship to crash in to the rocks.

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

that's the problem they are not old, if they get ek, your building through the draft dream strategy with the flyers goes out the window because you got a least 10 years to reach the finals, if the flyers have to go through them. if the flyers somehow get ek they will shorten the window for them to become contenders.
you cant hope that tampa gets him.

Does anyone have a Uranus-to-English dictionary?

 

[deadhead]

TB gets EK they're the favorite the next few years, but when the Flyers are ascending in 2020 forward, they'll be just as talented and 3-4 years younger and deeper.
EK wasn't EK when he came into the NHL, it wasn't until his 3rd season that he became something special.
Same way a number of the Flyer top prospects will have taken it up a notch or two in the early 2020s.

 

[mja]

Does anyone have a Uranus-to-English dictionary?

That's one dictionary I DO NOT want to look up.

 

[renberg]

I honestly don’t care about MacDonald & Weise. I’m totally content with waiting out their contracts to expire. They’re here two more years tops. Ryan could be here longer than that & very well could trend to Filppula territory.

I don’t want Bobby Ryan’s contract period. It’s one of the worst contracts in the league.

If you couldn’t re-sign Karlsson regardless of whatever reason you’d be the first team that Melynk & Dorion swindled.

According to Capfriendly, Ryan has a modified no movement; no trade clause in his contract. If so, in addition to everything that you traded to acquire EK/Ryan, you'd have to protect him in an expansion draft like Nashville had to do with Hartnell so you'd lose another good player at that point. The price for EK is just way too high in too many ways.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Moar cap dumps for Hakstol to overplay!

 

[Magua]

Moar cap dumps for Hakstol to overplay!

We discussed this the other day. 2 years at $5.8 mil for an oft injured cooked barely NHL quality 4th liner. Huzzah! They wouldn’t even contemplate buying out Lehtera when the cap is more manageable and before the next wave of contracts kick in. Meltzer in his blog even mentioned Lehtera is the favorite to be 4C if no prospect makes the team. Maybe if we are lucky he can penalty kill again. Callahan is a worse dump than Lehtera. And we are doing it to enable an Eastern Conference team to sign the best defenseman in the league.

Raddysh is good. But Katchouk gets my interest more. And we could give them a mid rounder back or a depth prospect. Meanwhile, the rebuilding Rangers probably won’t even ask for much to take Callahan. In a non-Lehtera world where I knew Callahan would be the 13 maybe. But alas!

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

Come on Bill. What incentive do the Flyers have doing that.

 

[FLYguy3911]

Hakstol salivating over the SH goal Callahan scored on us last year.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

We discussed this the other day. 2 years at $5.8 mil for an oft injured cooked barely NHL quality 4th liner. Huzzah! They wouldn’t even contemplate buying out Lehtera when the cap is more manageable and before the next wave of contracts kick in. Meltzer in his blog even mentioned Lehtera is the favorite to be 4C if no prospect makes the team. Maybe if we are lucky he can penalty kill again. Callahan is a worse dump than Lehtera. And we are doing it to enable an Eastern Conference team to sign the best defenseman in the league.

Raddysh is good. But Katchouk gets my interest more. And we could give them a mid rounder back or a depth prospect. Meanwhile, the rebuilding Rangers probably won’t even ask for much to take Callahan. In a non-Lehtera world where I knew Callahan would be the 13 maybe. But alas!

I would look forward to Bill’s articles these next two years laced with nothing but hockey jargon defending the ineptitude of Callahan & the coaching staff that overplays him.

 

[Magua]

Hakstol salivating over the SH goal Callahan scored on us last year.

Can you even imagine how dangerous a shorty tandem he would have? It would be the second coming of Giroux-Richards.

 

[FlyTimmo]

I'd take Raddysh for taking Callahan's contract... I think.

 

[Larry44]

Come on Bill. What incentive do the Flyers have doing that.

The incentive is they'd get Taylor Raddysh to take Callahan's contract. Whoops, Ryan just dislocated his shoulder again taping his stick. Deal's off.

On a more serious note, Raddysh stunk out the OHL playoffs vs. Hamilton. He was the whiniest of the whining Greyhounds. Cried like a baby every time the Bulldogs hit him, chirping to the refs all the time. Crosby must be his hero. Not sure I'd want him anyway, and esp. not if it means being shackled to Callahan's contract.

 

[FLYERSFAN18]

I know we have a lot of cap space but I think we are at the point where we need to stop taking bad contracts. With Lehtera, Weise, and MacDonald we already have too much slop to let Hakstol fall in love with. Unless Tampa absolutely blows Hextall away with an offer or we are able to trade Lehtera and Weise, we need to stay away from washed up players on bad contracts. Leave those roster spots for young players to prove they deserve to play in the NHL, and if they can't crap players can be had for very little in FA or trade.

 

[BernieParent]

According to Capfriendly, Ryan has a modified no movement; no trade clause in his contract. If so, in addition to everything that you traded to acquire EK/Ryan, you'd have to protect him in an expansion draft like Nashville had to do with Hartnell so you'd lose another good player at that point. The price for EK is just way too high in too many ways.

I thought the same, but a Senators fan on the main boards pointed out that the language in his contract makes him eligible for an ED. A quick Google search confirmed it.

 

[Lord Defect]

I wish we could have dangled an incentive laden, max $, 1 year contract to Tavares.

Giroux - Couturier - Konecny
JVR - Tavares - Voracek
Lindblom - Patrick - Simmonds
Raffl - Laughton - Weal

That would have made for a fun season, until the eventual injury and scramble to find cap room for a call up.

 

[Jray42]

I don't have interest in adding any extra slop with our available cap space, good prospect be damned.

I can't deal with more Lehteras.

 

[tucson83]

TB gets EK they're the favorite the next few years, but when the Flyers are ascending in 2020 forward, they'll be just as talented and 3-4 years younger and deeper.
EK wasn't EK when he came into the NHL, it wasn't until his 3rd season that he became something special.
Same way a number of the Flyer top prospects will have taken it up a notch or two in the early 2020s.

uh huh

 

[deadhead]

The one reason to take on bad contracts for prospects is you can't move cap money forward, so by doing this you accumulate assets with the cap money you can't save, allowing you to then use those assets to reshape the roster and move out veterans with large cap hits if necessary down the road (i.e. eat $5M for a prospect this year, and trade another prospect/draft pick in 3 years to move out some veteran contract or as part of a trade for an elite player where the cap needs to be manipulated to make room).

What else are we going to buy with our cap room this year, and can we find an expensive FA who'll sign a 2-3 year deal next year.
Because right how we're front loaded with cap room, but when the RFAs, and then the extensions (Couts, Ghost) become due, we may be cap strapped.

 

[FLYERSFAN18]

It is not 100% about unused cap room. It is about not weighing down the roster with shit players who will certainly see playing time. Having Callahan, Lehtera and Weise as options for Hakstol to play together is just a disastrous situation. Let younger unproven players get a chance to show they belong or at least get an idea of what they need to work on to play in the NHL.

 

[Tripod]

Adding a guy like Raddysh just means it's another body to try and fight it out for bottom 6 minutes the next 4 years. We have lots of other guys to do that with. No need anymore to take on cap dumps. Keep the space open and see what happens thru the year. Someone could come available unexpectedly that Hextall could want.

 

[FLYguy3911]

You can never have too many good prospects. Raddysh would be worth the cap dump but they didn’t move him in a deal for McDonagh so I doubt that’d do it in this hypothetical.

 

[mdm815]

Ehh I’m in the boat of if a short dump acquires a piece, you do it. Raddysh might not be a player for us but he’s a trade chip in a year or two to acquire a player who is a piece moving forward. All for the low cost of money.