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HisIceness

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Depends, if it's one of those GDI engines it definitely won't last the night

Well in that case, hopefully it can dance otherwise I guess we're just going to throw it all away.

That's all. See you guys later tonight tonight tonight in this land of confusion we call HFCanes, try to watch out for that invisible touch in the mean time.
 

Lempo

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Does anyone know where to find the actual final realized cap information for season 2020-21? Very specifically, the paid Performance Bonuses.
 

Svechhammer

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He did great work. He'll be missed.

Maybe it truly is a coincidence, but it's worth noting that the ED of the Canes Foundation and one of the heads of Canes Community Outreach has turned in his resignation within a week of Tony DeAngelo signing with the team.
 

Svechhammer

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'In-game betting but on steroids': Sinclair's sports broadcast of the future

Athletic just put this article out about how Bally Sports is looking to pivot starting next year, and it genuinely sounds awful. They're bragging that they're going to make each broadcast look like a Vegas sportsbook where it'll be 'like in-game betting, but on steroids'.

And you'll need to pay >$25 per month to watch it.
 
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tarheelhockey

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'In-game betting but on steroids': Sinclair's sports broadcast of the future

Athletic just put this article out about how Bally Sports is looking to pivot starting next year, and it genuinely sounds awful. They're bragging that they're going to make each broadcast look like a Vegas sportsbook where it'll be 'like in-game betting, but on steroids'.

And you'll need to pay >$25 per month to watch it.

This is just a really gross sub-culture to me. Not betting in general, but turning every game into this nonstop hyper-gambling experience. It feels a lot like when the internet enabled guys who used to dabble in stocks to sit at their desk and day-trade until they turned into zombies.
 

AD Skinner

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This is just a really gross sub-culture to me. Not betting in general, but turning every game into this nonstop hyper-gambling experience. It feels a lot like when the internet enabled guys who used to dabble in stocks to sit at their desk and day-trade until they turned into zombies.
Yeah I have no like moral issue or whatever with gambling its just not super interesting to me. I fear it will become kinda like the fantasy-ification of the nfl broadcasts. I like fantasy football, but I don't really want it to be part of the focus of the actual game I'm watching.
 

Svechhammer

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This is just a really gross sub-culture to me. Not betting in general, but turning every game into this nonstop hyper-gambling experience. It feels a lot like when the internet enabled guys who used to dabble in stocks to sit at their desk and day-trade until they turned into zombies.
I really don't like the thought of turning the broadcast into a sportsbook. Not that I don't like it, I really dont care about gambling, but when I hear sportsbook, I think of a broadcast that had the game itself taking up about half the screen while the rest is a running ticker of live betting odds, like you see on ESPN NEWS or the horseracing channel at bars up in the NE.
 

tarheelhockey

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Yeah I have no like moral issue or whatever with gambling its just not super interesting to me. I fear it will become kinda like the fantasy-ification of the nfl broadcasts. I like fantasy football, but I don't really want it to be part of the focus of the actual game I'm watching.

I really don't like the thought of turning the broadcast into a sportsbook. Not that I don't like it, I really dont care about gambling, but when I hear sportsbook, I think of a broadcast that had the game itself taking up about half the screen while the rest is a running ticker of live betting odds, like you see on ESPN NEWS or the horseracing channel at bars up in the NE.


Especially because this isn’t like ESPN running a fantasy ticker in hopes they’ll get some residuals when people sign up through their service. Bally’s game plan is to have viewers fully engaged in real-time through the interface itself. They’re talking about having buttons on your actual remote control, or having it built into the app interface that streaming viewers are using to watch the game. They’re hooking people into a hard-wired addiction.

We’ve already seen this in other contexts like social media and micro-investing and online gaming, so it’s pretty obvious where it ends. Five years from now we’ll have a whole demographic of people who obsessively waste away their lives on something that used to be a fun diversion. There’s nothing stopping the company from doing it, but it’s transparently an awful idea that’s going to make Bally’s a fortune by creating a new social ill. And also making broadcasts shitty to watch.
 

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Especially because this isn’t like ESPN running a fantasy ticker in hopes they’ll get some residuals when people sign up through their service. Bally’s game plan is to have viewers fully engaged in real-time through the interface itself. They’re talking about having buttons on your actual remote control, or having it built into the app interface that streaming viewers are using to watch the game. They’re hooking people into a hard-wired addiction.

We’ve already seen this in other contexts like social media and micro-investing and online gaming, so it’s pretty obvious where it ends. Five years from now we’ll have a whole demographic of people who obsessively waste away their lives on something that used to be a fun diversion. There’s nothing stopping the company from doing it, but it’s transparently an awful idea that’s going to make Bally’s a fortune by creating a new social ill. And also making broadcasts shitty to watch.
Yep. I'm legitimately wondering if the Canes look for other broadcast options coming up soon. As is they and about every other team in the league were pretty pissed off about Bally/Sinclair refusing to negotiate in good faith with multiple broadcast carriers last year resulting in a ton of customers being blocked out of their content. Now with the described changes i can see people that still have access being annoyed to no end and trying to push the issue to get off those broadcasts yet again.
 

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Especially because this isn’t like ESPN running a fantasy ticker in hopes they’ll get some residuals when people sign up through their service. Bally’s game plan is to have viewers fully engaged in real-time through the interface itself. They’re talking about having buttons on your actual remote control, or having it built into the app interface that streaming viewers are using to watch the game. They’re hooking people into a hard-wired addiction.

We’ve already seen this in other contexts like social media and micro-investing and online gaming, so it’s pretty obvious where it ends. Five years from now we’ll have a whole demographic of people who obsessively waste away their lives on something that used to be a fun diversion. There’s nothing stopping the company from doing it, but it’s transparently an awful idea that’s going to make Bally’s a fortune by creating a new social ill. And also making broadcasts shitty to watch.
Hell, we’re all doing that on HFBoards right now.

Edit: At least I am.
 
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Hell, we’re all doing that on HFBoards right now.

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Boom Boom Apathy

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Maybe it truly is a coincidence, but it's worth noting that the ED of the Canes Foundation and one of the heads of Canes Community Outreach has turned in his resignation within a week of Tony DeAngelo signing with the team.
Didn’t SEns1canes2 say a couple days ago that he was friends with that guy and although the guy never told him why he left, S1c2 said he thought it was because of that signing?
 

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Anyone watch the Tennis Channel? (A Sinclair channel, btw.) They give the betting lines before and during each match, updating the odds after each set, and discuss why those odds have changed and if they're good bets to make.
 

Svechhammer

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So now we've had the head of the Canes community outreach who was also the lead of the Canes Foundation as well as the head of our social media presence who runs and produces the team's podcast and website both turn in their resignations within 10 days of the TDA signing.

This signing wasn't worth it. It really wasn't.
 

Boom Boom Apathy

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Setting the DeAngelo signing aside, this is, and has been a constant within the Canes org since Dundon took over. It appears to me that like he said, there are a lot of people that can do the job so he's not going to pay top dollar for roles that he views as "replaceable".

Pretty much every scout and team management that was with Carolina when he took over was replaced with (presumably) cheaper scouts once their contract expired.

Francis - fired
AGM Olczyk,
Wesley,
Scouts: Kron, Dawson, MacDonald, Marshall, and a few more.
Kaiton
Forslund
and a cast of others.

I'm not saying this is the case with Mike Smith, but if the Canes don't want to pay him as much, I wouldn't be surprised to see him seek greener pastures.
 
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