Post-Game Talk: New York Islanders at New York Rangers - January 13 [WARNING #228]

[bl02]

That's all fine, but it's hard to be engaged when you get outplayed every single night.

That's the problem. It will continue to be the problem despite all the deflection we always see on here.

The chicken or the egg. Its a part of the game. maybe not a huge part anymore but always will be. In any contact sport it will always be.

 

[Machinehead]

AV possession is different than corsi, and he's said it himself. They hold onto pucks, move players laterally, and try to maximize scoring chances. We don't know their true possession unless someone tracks actual zone time (proprietary info for some stupid ****ing reason). I'd bet we're not as ****ty of a possession team with the puck in the offensive zone.

Our biggest issues remain our forecheck and transition/in-zone defending. They've been our biggest issues since 15-16.

Obviously we can't know for sure, but I would shit chickens if this team isn't 31st at raw possession.

 

[Machinehead]

The chicken or the egg. Its a part of the game. maybe not a huge part anymore but always will be. In any contact sport it will always be.

Ok, but I think there's bigger fish to fry here.

We fight over the semantics but I think 99% of this board agrees we're awful defensively. I think that's more important.

 

[darko]

Barzal what a player.

 

[PuckLuck3043]

And we still got completely outplayed and only won because of our goaltending.

See how it doesn't change anything?

Spin it any way you want but the series was extremely close and most people thought we had the better of the play overall. I think there were 2 games out of the 6 in which Montreal had a distinct advantage in play.

 

[Machinehead]

Spin it any way you want but the series was extremely close and most people thought we had the better of the play overall. I think there were 2 games out of the 6 in which Montreal had a distinct advantage in play.

Not sure what series you watched

 

[bl02]

Spin it any way you want but the series was extremely close and most people thought we had the better of the play overall. I think there were 2 games out of the 6 in which Montreal had a distinct advantage in play.

And call me crazy but Girardi's hard hit on Shaw could have had a slight impact going forward for game 5 and 6. Knocking him out for game 6 was a definite advantage for us.

 

[darko]

It’s important. You can be as sarcastic as you want. It’s a contact occasionally violent sport. Just because there is no Corsi or other analytics about fighting and hitting doesn’t mean squat. Still one of the most important elements in the game. Teams that have it feel bigger and better about themselves. Period. Argument over. And the guy on your avatar is one of the biggest offenders of being

Fighting isn't important. You put the puck in the net and it'll stop the other team from gooning it up. Especially when you can do it on PP.

 

[bl02]

Fighting isn't important. You put the puck in the net and it'll stop the other team from gooning it up. Especially when you can do it on PP.

We can't do it anymore on the pp lol.
Anyway, you don't feel hard hitting and showing some emotion is important element to hockey? I mean i wish we could ask a professional hockey player but i can't imagine they would say it isn't

 

[Nickmo82]

Didn't watch, due to sleeping (thank you time zones!).

Seemed to be AV typical. Hank is the only guy who gives a shit night in and night out.

How many without a win in regulation now? How does that gum chewing buffoon still have a job?!

 

[PuckLuck3043]

Not sure what series you watched

The same one you watched.

 

[darko]

We can't do it anymore on the pp lol.
Anyway, you don't feel hard hitting and showing some emotion is important element to hockey? I mean i wish we could ask a professional hockey player but i can't imagine they would say it isn't

Not really. Not anymore. The game itself has gotten softer.

 

[bl02]

Not really. Not anymore. The game itself has gotten softer.

i've seen plenty of times where it changed momentum of the game especially in playoffs.

 

[YoSoyLalo]

This thread is getting savage

AV is tearing this board apart

That reminds me, I'd rather Tommy Wiseau coach this team than AV

 

[Doctyl]

Obviously we can't know for sure, but I would **** chickens if this team isn't 31st at raw possession.

Clearly didnt learn your lesson from the taste of hair

 

[PuckLuck3043]

Not really. Not anymore. The game itself has gotten softer.

Emotion and physicality will always be an advantage in hockey as long as you play within the rules and don't take stupid penalties.

 

[Machinehead]

Clearly didnt learn your lesson from the taste of hair

Loophole - I can't actually shit chickens.

 

[darko]

i've seen plenty of times where it changed momentum of the game especially in playoffs.

So have i in the past. Not sure it works anymore.

The thing is that you are not going to intimidate a really good team by being physical. Poor teams yeah maybe. Not good teams though.

 

[darko]

Emotion and physicality will always be an advantage in hockey as long as you play within the rules and don't take stupid penalties.

You get penalties for instigating a fight.

 

[Mac n Gs]

I just find it funny how I was a stupid douche bag when someone mentioned having Gallant coach this team.

Now I want...Gallant coaching this team.

 

[Machinehead]

I just find it funny how I was a stupid *****e bag when someone mentioned having Gallant coach this team.

Now I want...Gallant coaching this team.

Amazing what he's done with Vegas

 

[darko]

Don't mind Darko, Cowboys fans are a little slow in the brain.

Mahomes sucks.

 

[bl02]

I would have loved Gallant here. Not saying he's an easy coach to play for but He chooses and he plays character guys on that team...but wait was julien let go before gallant i forget?...otherwise we would have Julien. disaster.

 

[darko]

legally or physically?

Lol.

 

[PuckLuck3043]

You get penalties for instigating a fight.

Yes you do and I never said to start a fight. Actually taking the body would be a good start.