Player Discussion Nathan Beaulieu Part III
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Dagistitsyn
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He has been directly responsible for some of the Rangers key goals in this series by screwing up defensively. That's just a fact.
groovejuice
Without deviation progress is not possible
Dagistitsyn
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Not really. Everytime Beaulieu was scored on it was because he turned the puck over or he lost his coverage. It's not always the defensemans fault, but in his case it has been. He's prone to very dumb ass plays that you can't afford in the playoffs.
montreal
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http://www.tsn.ca/radio/montreal-690/lu-may-have-seen-last-of-beaulieu-1.738356
John Lu talking about Beaulieu, think he hits the nail on the head.
John Lu talking about Beaulieu, think he hits the nail on the head.
groovejuice
Without deviation progress is not possible
I'm not sure anything I wrote disputed that. What I said was all defensemen make serious errors.
That's not incompatible with Beaulieu making more than his share of them.
Can't really argue with him.
The main point being he believes Beaulieu is missing hockey IQ and that when you go from playing with Weber/Markov to start the year in hopes of being the PMD they need to falling into a scratched role it means they might have given up on him.
Beaulieu is just straight up missing IQ, nevermind hockey IQ. New rule: all Montreal draftees must answer a skill testing question.
The first time I heard Beaulieu speak I thought to myself ''oh jeez that guy is dumb as a rock.''
The first time I heard Beaulieu speak I thought to myself ''oh jeez that guy is dumb as a rock.''
WhiskeySeven*
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I think he can turn the corner but I've heard from multiple, different sources that he's dumb as rocks.
Lebowski
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I think people are being a lot too harsh on a young defenseman coming off a 30 points season, that has substantially increased his totals over the past three successive seasons, and that has done it all usually standing in the dog house, with 3rd pair minutes, little to no consistency in ice-time and linemates, and little to no consistent time on the power-play.
My opinion on him hasn't changed. Put your trust in him, use him on the 2nd or 1st pair with a seasoned veteran that can pick up the slack on the defensive end from time to time, and let him develop. This team has done too little of that over the years, and we get the results we deserve.
Above all, I'm astonished at people being willing at letting him exposed at the draft, or trade him for pennies. He's an asset. A depreciating asset we'd have next to nothing to gain from trading. And most of all, he's an underperforming asset. It'd be such a waste to give up on him before even giving him a chance to play under a suitable defensive coach for an entire season, a suitable head coach for an entire season, a suitable defensive partner for an entire season, or the tiniest bit of consistency for an entire season. We expect our young players to be consistent, but make it next to impossible for them to deliver consistent results.
Is he the smartest defenseman out there... No. But it's not like we expect him to carry a first pairing anymore. We're well past that stage. It doesn't mean he can't be of any help on a team that cruelly lacks puck movers on the defensive end.
My opinion on him hasn't changed. Put your trust in him, use him on the 2nd or 1st pair with a seasoned veteran that can pick up the slack on the defensive end from time to time, and let him develop. This team has done too little of that over the years, and we get the results we deserve.
Above all, I'm astonished at people being willing at letting him exposed at the draft, or trade him for pennies. He's an asset. A depreciating asset we'd have next to nothing to gain from trading. And most of all, he's an underperforming asset. It'd be such a waste to give up on him before even giving him a chance to play under a suitable defensive coach for an entire season, a suitable head coach for an entire season, a suitable defensive partner for an entire season, or the tiniest bit of consistency for an entire season. We expect our young players to be consistent, but make it next to impossible for them to deliver consistent results.
Is he the smartest defenseman out there... No. But it's not like we expect him to carry a first pairing anymore. We're well past that stage. It doesn't mean he can't be of any help on a team that cruelly lacks puck movers on the defensive end.
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schnapshot
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... And Beaulieu sucks... He's the kind of player you replace easily as long as you get someone who's mobile.
Mike Mike Caron
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If you look at Beaulieu's profile he's everything you wish for. When you watch him play you wonder if he knows what's happening on the ice. I wouldn't be surprised if Jakub is the exact opposit.
schnapshot
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Yeah, looking at his HockeyDB page, seems like Beaulieu would be a good 2nd pairing D with uprise.
But he honestly doesn't have much going on between his ears. When a mentoring by Shea Weber can't help a player, you know something's wrong. And this is coming from a guy who defended him for a long time.
As soon as he said "I didn't learn anything" after being healthy scratched by Julien, I knew his time in Montreal was up.
IIIIIIIIIIIIIII
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Simple => because Beaulieu has no hockey IQ.
It's great to have attributes, but he can't use them with his current brain.
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It's supposed to be "If Only I Had a Brain" from The Wizard of Oz. Can't get the YouTube link to work correctly.
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Beaulieu has plateaud as a player...there's been very little progression in his game since he was drafted even.
I'm hoping the Habs protect him. He has trade value (maybe not enough to get a top line player, but something). I don't see him as being much different than Franson. Franson netted the Leafs a 1st rounder as a rental. Franson had better point totals, so I doubt you get a 1st for Beaulieu, but maybe a 2nd or a couple of picks/prospects. If the Habs lose him via expansion draft or waivers, than it will be just another example of asset mismanagement.
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If Beaulieu would be more disciplined off the ice, it would be a good start to be more alert when it's times to practice and play the game.
Le Tricolore
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He had one off-ice issue a few years ago. I don't think it's had any impact whatsoever on his career.
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