My Hart, Norris, and Vezina winners today are ...
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The Podium
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His team is +5 even strength and his defensive WAR is in the bottom 1/3rd in the league. He has fewer ES points than MacKinnon and Mackinnon is close to the league lead in both goals and points while being +30 ES and playing the more valuable position.
I dont see how it is a Canadian narrative to prop up Nate, a player on an American team, when 2 players on 2 big Canadian markets are also in the top 4.
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Two reasons:
1. He’s leading in points and statistically speaking the Art Ross winner often wins the Hart.
2. He’s not a sieve defensively.
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It's Kuch-Hughes-Hellebucyk.
The Lindsay will be fascinating, If Matthews gets 70 goals or McDavid gets 100 assists, I wonder if that is highlighted more.
The Lindsay will be fascinating, If Matthews gets 70 goals or McDavid gets 100 assists, I wonder if that is highlighted more.
The Podium
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I'd put a lot of money on Mack for the Hart. I actually dont think the voting will be close either(Even though it should be).
Vezina should be Helly easily. Norris is probably the closest but I'd venture to guess Hughes gets it.
Vezina should be Helly easily. Norris is probably the closest but I'd venture to guess Hughes gets it.
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Not sure where this fallacy comes from.
But, without him, the Lightning would not have qualified for the playoffs this season. Absolute fact - one player really did drag the rest of his teammates to the finish line. The defense, including the contribution from the majority of the Lightning forwards, has been abysmal this season overall, and only until the recent stretch have they tightened up their game. Vasilevskiy has fiddled with mediocrity most of the season since returning from back surgery and definitely hasn't bailed the team out like he has in the past (except for finding his more typical game as of late).
The fact he's a winger yet still controls the play and runs the number 1 PP - he sets everyone up. The way he slows the game down, the passes he makes are unreal, all the backhand passes he makes. His teammates and opponents constantly mention his work ethic and how he's never satisfied and always working on his shot, his stickhandling, subtle aspects of his game and never leaves the ice. How his hockey sense is unmatched and that is what makes him great - not being the fastest or having a hard shot or all of those skill sets he admits he doesn't have or the "flashy" skills - but he makes up for it by reading the ice better than anyone.
Remember watching an interview with Bellemare where he mentioned how Kucherov would take these hard passes around back of the net and then immediately make a perfect backhand pass to Stamkos for a goal in front of the net during a game. And Bellemare would want to try it, try taking a hard rim on the backhand in practice and could never control the puck to make a surgical type pass like that, that the puck just exploded off his stick and went wherever yet somehow Kucherov controls it and delivers it exactly where his target is.
Yeah, I'm biased, but his game is seriously underrated and underappreciated. He's the ultimate team guy. He deserves the Hart.
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HockeyWooot
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Mackinnon, Hughes, Hellebuyck
Hart competition is fierce: Mackinnon, Kucherov and McDavid are close. Matthews, Pasternak and Crosby have been phenomenal too.
Hart competition is fierce: Mackinnon, Kucherov and McDavid are close. Matthews, Pasternak and Crosby have been phenomenal too.
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Tampa wouldn't even be a playoff team without Kuch, he's outscored his 2nd best teammate by 53 points, if he maintains the lead he has on Mack and McDavid you can't take this away from him
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Because Kucherov is quite literally the only reason Tampa is remotely relevant this season. He leads Point by 53 points. Whereas MacKinnon only has a 35 point lead on Rantanen while McDavid is ahead of Draisaitl by 28.
You can argue Mack or McDavid deserve it more but Kucherov is, undeniably, in that conversation.
Anywho. My picks would be:
Kucherov
Hughes
Hellebuyck
Contrary to popular belief, MacKinnon is having the worst defensive season of the big 3.
LosPollosHermanos
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The heart trophy is such a predictable joke. Guess what I know who wins. The luckiest person who happens to have the most numbers on the paper LOLOL???!?!?!
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It goes to the player with the most intangible abilities, Messier and Toews have won it every year since its inception in 1980
It’s probably Mack’s now.
Norris and Vezina were pretty much locked up a while ago with Hughes and Helly taking the awards.
Norris and Vezina were pretty much locked up a while ago with Hughes and Helly taking the awards.
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And as we all know there are only 2 players on the ice, or on a team for that matter.
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