Confirmed Trade: [MTL/CBJ] Josh Anderson for Max Domi and 2020 3rd round pick - pt.2

[sandybridge]

I agree it only took him 9 years so far to accomplish what exactly?

Well, built a team that could go to conference finals this year.

Most of the players that turned out to be junk soon after he moved them:

Galchenyk, Subban, Weise

And most of the players that he traded for soon took off in their careers:

Petry, Danault, Anderson, Suzuki, Tatar

It's safe to say that he has a better than average trade record, and a really good eye for up and coming players.

 

[smirob]

I agree it only took him 9 years so far to accomplish what exactly?

I find it funny that guys like David Poile have a good reputation after 24 years and Bergevin will get zero credit for recent success because "it took him 9 years"

One of Montreal's downfalls is impatience (firing Julien, Vigneault for example) I was pretty critical of MB early on, but he rarely has made a bad trade. If success is only measured in cups, there are 30 gm's who fail this metric every year.

I'm confident MTL is heading in the right direction - which is hard to argue.

 

[Moose Head]

We’ll see what happens when Anderson’s shooting percentage isn’t double his career average. If both players shoot their normal percentages, both of them would be sitting at 6 points. That’s not to say the trade hasn’t worked out much better for Montreal than I was expecting, but players don’t shoot 20%+ long term. Let’s not forget the Vegas fans that thought Karlsson would be scoring 30-40 goals every year, and he’s been on pace for 22 goals per year since the one outlier season

If his shooting % is cut by half it’s still almost a 30 goal pace which I think the habs would be ok with

 

[smack66]

I find it funny that guys like David Poile have a good reputation after 24 years and Bergevin will get zero credit for recent success because "it took him 9 years"

One of Montreal's downfalls is impatience (firing Julien, Vigneault for example) I was pretty critical of MB early on, but he rarely has made a bad trade. If success is only measured in cups, there are 30 gm's who fail this metric every year.

I'm confident MTL is heading in the right direction - which is hard to argue.

I dont disagree they are looking better but without Covid they dont make the playoffs last year and would be in a dogfight this year if not for realignment.

 

[The Nuge]

If his shooting % is cut by half it’s still almost a 30 goal pace which I think the habs would be ok with

oh for sure. And he’s easily worth his money at that point if he can continue. I’m just saying it’s a bit premature to declare Montreal easily won the trade when we know Anderson won’t keep scoring at a 55 goal pace. Just as it’s kind of been proven that it was premature to declare Columbus easily won the trade when it happened

 

[HuGo Sham]

I've been a bergervin detractor, but he has learned from his mistakes. He's a great evaluator of pro talent and has made mostly excellent trades - drouin / sergachev aside, which has has lessened a bit with Drouin's early play this year. He finally figured out a couple of important things:

-build from C and D - instead of on the wings and in net
-accumulating large amounts of picks to give him a chance of drafting gems throughout the draft
-finally getting price a legit backup - only took him 9 years

worst moves:
-keeping therrien as coach for far too long
-never getting price a suitable backup which derailed several great starts to the year after he got injured
-giving price that ridiculous contract because he decided early on to build through goal and on the wing