Most Overrated and Underrated Players in the NHL?
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JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK
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Some more: Josh Morrissey, Toby Rieder, Nick Dowd (never heard of the dude before this year but he always impresses me when I catch the Kings), Josh Anderson (same deal as Dowd), Nick Leddy.
PromisedLand
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http://stats.hockeyanalysis.com/showplayer.php?pid=1190
- Look at his GF% he has been pretty mediocre
- his defensive zone starts are always lower than OD and NZ starts
compare this to
Keith
http://stats.hockeyanalysis.com/showplayer.php?pid=282
Doughty
http://stats.hockeyanalysis.com/showplayer.php?pid=1001
Weber
http://stats.hockeyanalysis.com/showplayer.php?pid=265
WesMcCauley
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Completely and totally mistaken, though likely completely intentional. You might want to, you know, do 10 seconds of research before posting a trash opinion. Just tonight he killed an entire lengthy 5 on 3 pk.
WesMcCauley
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You do know Keith and Doughty has played behind multiple cup winning teams, Karlsson doesnt have a team close to that infront of him. You cant compare players by using GF% lol
Sempiternal
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He is not praised much on HF - quite the opposite - and often as "well informed" as you initial post was. He is praised much more by people who, you know, do hockey for a living, as they just might have a little more insight into the game than an occasional viewer.
PromisedLand
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my point is basically that Karlsson is a good D-man hell even a great D-man; but there is no way in hell Karlsson is the best ever or even one of the best ever.....
We can throw in
Suter
Jossi
Subban
and then do comparables if you like
Preisst*
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Over = easily Kessel.
Under = Bozak.
These are personal opinions and not up for debate.
Under = Bozak.
These are personal opinions and not up for debate.
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JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK
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Those stats don't even come close to proving that.
And if he "can't play D" as you said, wouldn't his GF% be worse than "mediocre"? Disregarding the fact that he plays for a mediocre at best team while the other three played for contenders.
And it's a good thing you brought up Weber and Josi, two of the most overrated players in the entire league.
Andy Greene is massively underrated IMO. Everytime I catch a Devils game all I see is this guy that doesn't make a single mistake all night. He can do a bit of everything too.
I've never catched a game from Evander Kane that made me get the hype he has around here though.
I've never catched a game from Evander Kane that made me get the hype he has around here though.
PromisedLand
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First, if his GF% is fine being mediocre because he plays for a mediocre team then WHY should his CF% be used to sing his praises where CF% is also part of a team stat?
You cannot have the cake and eat it too. I am not up for debate on this one. If GF% is not good enough to be used then CF% should not be used in defending that player.
P.S. When Bruins won the cup they did not have superstars in their line up.
Viqsi
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MaxPac and JvR can end up being rather absurdly underrated here by folks who frequent the Trades & Rumors board because they get offered a lot in trade proposals, and while their trade value is relatively low (as it is for scoring wingers), that has no impact whatsoever on their on-ice value (which remains in good shape - even for MaxPac, despite the dubious season he's had so far).
Folks just keep assuming there's something fundamentally wrong with those players as they come up so often, but that's not it at all. It's just fans recognizing that wingers are more readily replaceable and thus trying to offer their guy as "something of value" figuring that they'll get a Good Enough guy afterward - and forgetting that that very replaceability brings down their guy's trade value and thus undermines their goal.
Folks just keep assuming there's something fundamentally wrong with those players as they come up so often, but that's not it at all. It's just fans recognizing that wingers are more readily replaceable and thus trying to offer their guy as "something of value" figuring that they'll get a Good Enough guy afterward - and forgetting that that very replaceability brings down their guy's trade value and thus undermines their goal.
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