Speculation: Montreal is now clearly a seller

Goal Caufield50

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So you think Primeau will do better than Hawkey, Fucale, simila, Messiaen drafts and Lindgren, McNiven or Niemi or Kincaid?
Good luck with that. In the meantime the Habs don’t have a credible back up goalie. You do kno Primeau is in the minors. Let me guess next year , give me a yep for that.
 

Goal Caufield50

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There's still a 0% chance that Montreal takes Askarov. We need way more help at forward and D than in net. Think whatever you want, you'll be wrong on draft day.
You are not considering they could call out the name best player available and follow a plan. Yes it would be a strategy deviation to have an honest assessment of your talent and follow a plan. Not sure Habs have a plan or that they just can’t execute. Probably both. God knows a free agent of any stature won’t go there Due to jackass media and fanbase
 

Goal Caufield50

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I doubt they get a 2nd for Scandella they only paid a 4th for him and he wants to stay in Montreal, also no one giving up much of anything for Kovy.
You will get a 4th back with retention. There is a reason he was a Buffalo healthy scratch
 

Goal Caufield50

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Not going anywhere:
Danault
Gallagher
Drouin
Armia
Kotkaniemi
Suzuki
Weber
Chiarot
Domi
Romanov
Caufield
Poehling
Primeau
2020 1st

Likely not going anywhere:
Price
Mete
Lehkonen
Fleury
*Petry
Byron
... other important picks & prospects

Could be moved:
Thompson
Tatar
Kovalchuk
Cousins
Weal
Lindgren

*Despite my making a Petry proposal thread yesterday, I don't see him being moved without a replacement in place. Not if we're trying to make the playoffs next year.

Even Cousins is good depth and it may not really be worthwhile to trade him.
Each year bergivin looks to get a #1c. This year there is no Duchene or o’riely. The team has no 1c. Best move is to max value on Tatar and Petry and use the assets to draft and develop a 1c.
 
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Goal Caufield50

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Except that Montreal has drafted even better than Chicago in the past 3 years.
I can’t agree here. We have fleury and Romanov and Chicago drafts beaudin and Boqvist and trades Jokiharju for Nylander. Forwards include dach and trade for strome; basically two 6’3” plus 200 lbs centres. Miles beyond Montreal.
 
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Habs Halifax

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Max is worth a first. If you believe you can sign him in the $6.0m to $6.5m range you don’t trade him

Domi is worth substantially more than a 1st but it greatly depends on what that 1st is? He is a guaranteed NHL asset at 24 and under RFA control for two more years. He's getting paid more than $6.5M. More like $7M - $8M range. Habs can sign him to one more bridge year if we want to as well. Seems like his point production ability is 55-75 range and hard to nail down. I think he will ask to be paid as a 70 pts guy.

Nylander contract and a bit more. Maybe 6 years at $7.5M?
 

Habs Halifax

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I can’t agree here. We have fleury and Romanov and Chicago drafts beaudin and Boqvist and trades Jokiharju for Nylander. Forwards include dach and trade for strome; basically two 6’3” plus 200 lbs centres. Miles beyond Montreal.

Habs have more than just Fleury and Romanov. Count how many guys made the WJC for both teams in the last 3 years. Habs have substantially more. And if you want to include Strome who was drafted before 2017, we can include both Domi and Drouin as well for trades. Caufield, Primeau, Suzuki, Harris, Norlinder, Ylonen, Oloffsson give the Habs the edge no doubt.

- Kotkaniemi = Dach
- Romanov = Boqvist
- Brook = Beaudin
- Fleury = Jokiharju/Nylander
- Hillis = Wise
- Struble = Vlasic
- Fonstad = Teply

- Domi > Strome
- Drouin/Sergachev vs ????

- Caufield > ????
- Suzuki > ????
- Primeau > ????
- Harris > ????
- Norlinder vs ????
- Ylonen vs ????
- Olofsson vs ????
 
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Mike Towers

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Their is no Free agent replacement. Nothing close unless you think Tyson Barrie , muzzin or peiterangeo will sign in Montreal
Petry is leaving anyways...there is no way Montreal resigns Petry to a 4-5 year contract extension ...he will turn 34 the first year of his new contract....what is the point of keeping Petry for a year and letting him walk for nothing.
 

Ricky Bobby

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By core guy(s) you mean Price (32) and Weber (34), right?

Because you surely can’t mean Domi (24), Drouin (24), Suzuki (20), Gallagher (27), Kotkaniemi (19), Mete (21), Caufield (19), Romanov (20), Primeau (20), Danault (26), Armia (25), Lehkonen (24), Poehling (21).

Are you really counting guys like Armia and Lehkonen as "core" guys?

Domi is an RFA this year who's price tag is going to go up significantly. Gallagher and Danault are UFA's after next season so there price tag is about to go up significantly. Nice pieces but looking at other top forwards in just the Atlantic and they simply don't measure up to what Boston, Florida, Toronto or Tampa (all teams that were in a playoff spot at some point in the last week). They've got a lot of work to accomplish before they'd potentially be a good team as they are missing most of the hardest to find pieces of what would be a "core" on a contending team.

Price and Weber are core guys who's contracts are going to be anchors by the time this team could potentially be competitive again. Any gains by the youngsters will come with the aging of #1 Dmen Weber, # 1 goalie Price.

Also consider #2 Dman Petry who's 32 and leading scorer Tatar (29) are UFA's after next year. They really need to take a step back and look to acquire futures for these guys. It will mean pain this year and next but getting futures to build around is far more important then not making the playoffs. Also bottoming out to get a top pick this year and next to hopefully get that top end talent is the best direction for this team.
 

Baksfamous112

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Are you really counting guys like Armia and Lehkonen as "core" guys?

Domi is an RFA this year who's price tag is going to go up significantly. Gallagher and Danault are UFA's after next season so there price tag is about to go up significantly. Nice pieces but looking at other top forwards in just the Atlantic and they simply don't measure up to what Boston, Florida, Toronto or Tampa (all teams that were in a playoff spot at some point in the last week). They've got a lot of work to accomplish before they'd potentially be a good team as they are missing most of the hardest to find pieces of what would be a "core" on a contending team.

Price and Weber are core guys who's contracts are going to be anchors by the time this team could potentially be competitive again. Any gains by the youngsters will come with the aging of #1 Dmen Weber, # 1 goalie Price.

Also consider #2 Dman Petry who's 32 and leading scorer Tatar (29) are UFA's after next year. They really need to take a step back and look to acquire futures for these guys. It will mean pain this year and next but getting futures to build around is far more important then not making the playoffs. Also bottoming out to get a top pick this year and next to hopefully get that top end talent is the best direction for this team.

I was referring to the guy saying that Montreal had no real good young pieces.

Also, can we all agree that our core in the near future is going to consist of Domi, Drouin, Kotkaniemi, Suzuki, Price, Gallagher, Weber and (maybe) Mete and Romanov?

We got elite pieces - Kotkaniemi, Suzuki, Caufield coming up with Romanov/Primeau as outside chances. We’re not in a bad position. We just need time to let the young guys with elite talent we recently drafted to mature a little bit.

I also do believe that with the depth we have, we are good enough to be a playoff team right now even though it’s getting late.
 

Archijerej

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The reason may lie in the fact Scandella was a healthy scratch in Buffalo and an 8th d there
Marco Scandella has played in 172 out of 204 possible games during his time with the Sabres. He played in 31 out of 40 games this season alone. On average, it's 70 games a season. How on earth does that indicate a #8 defenceman?
 

Benstheman

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There seems to be a natural fit between Habs and Vegas concerning Petry.

1st + Dorofeyev??

Hague + 2nd?
 

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