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13 Days..
Really can't wait. I think there is also going to be a lot of movement in the league as well on Draft day
13 Days..
Hmmm,
PK. Subban was ranked like 102 the yr he was drafted.
So lets use the logic of Habs should have waited,they wasted the 43 pick on a guy ranked 102, just think they could have got PK much later?Just think of all the player we could picked at 43 that was better than Subban...
It's not goona happen,Jordan ranked 55 will be long gone before 55,bank on that.The Subban name =cat is out of the bag,on teams radars.
Hmmm,
PK. Subban was ranked like 102 the yr he was drafted.
So lets use the logic of Habs should have waited,they wasted the 43 pick on a guy ranked 102, just think they could have got PK much later?Just think of all the player we could picked at 43 that was better than Subban...
It's not goona happen,Jordan ranked 55 will be long gone before 55,bank on that.The Subban name =cat is out of the bag,on teams radars.
Well for what it's worth, you don't know that the Habs couldn't have gotten P.K. later...
As you said - the cat is out of the bag. The Subban name is not a mystery anymore. And despite all that, Jordan is still ranked as a low second/high third.
I think the bigger mistake is to draft Jordan high and expect to get P.K. Part 2.
Will never know,and there was people mad about wasting 43 on Subban at the time(where they go?)
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Jordan according to Pk himself (who knows talent)will be better than him,now that is hard to imagine,but that just isnt a bro pumpin his little bros tires.....
5'10 220 lbs offensive d name Jordan Subban, is not a problem 3-4 yrs from now.
If Erne is still available at 25, which I don't think will be the case, do we pick him?
Jordan according to Pk himself (who knows talent)will be better than him,now that is hard to imagine,but that just isnt a bro pumpin his little bros tires......
...and Henry Staal stated that he thought that Jarod might be the best of the 4 Staal brothers.
...and Mario Lemieux once stated that he thought he older brother (Alain) was a better hockey player than him.
...and of course there was that whole Keith Gretzky might be better than Wayne.
...and the Islanders who thought they got the better Lindros when they nabbed Brett.
...and Henry Staal stated that he thought that Jarod might be the best of the 4 Staal brothers.
Never take scouting reports on players from their family members.
thing is, the article doesn't really go into much depth or detail about what the team will try to do at the draft...
writing about the results of an office mock draft doesn't really = "Draft preview", with or without a post-season recap.
Take a look around this board, and you'll find quite a few draft preview type posts by guys who have done an much better job at speculating what the habs might do during the draft...
FYI, his post was hardly a "knock", it was a very simple statement (accurate at that), followed by a pretty fair question.
instead of reacting defensively to it, and passive aggressively taking issue with his post (a disingenuous smiley doesn't change the content of a post), you'd be much better served taking his, & others, constructive criticism to heart and use it to improve further offerings.
this board is probably one of the best places to find constructive criticism for someone with a passion for sports writing... and while there are a lot of juvenile posts/posters to weed through, it wouldn't take much looking around to figure out that commentary from a poster like overlords is exactly the kind of feedback you should be looking for.
it's not like he was nit-picking you for silly statements like:
"The Canadiens will need continued growth from P.K. Subban"
--> while it's true that all teams would want continued growth from all of their players, unless the aim was to make redundant redundant commentary, it's pretty silly to argue the habs "need" growth from their norris winning dman. If Subban's game plateaued where it was this season, the habs or any other team in the league would be thrilled to have him just at the level he is. In their pantheon of needs, Subban improving has got to be near the bottom of the pile.
"Character, toughness, work ethic, and potential offensive talent will be important attributes that the Canadiens will be looking for when selecting this year's draft prospects."
--> might have saved you some word space by simply writing "Good hockey players are what the Canadiens will be..." Stating the obvious doesn't really make for a great way of closing an article...
he didn't go anywhere near those or the other "low hanging fruit" to knock the article, you're reaction to his minor commentary was way over the top, and just brought greater scrutiny for a piece that was probably better served quietly fading into the back pages.
Jordan is 55th in NA skaters.
Hagg is 8th in European skaters. Just add two goalies (among Fucale, Comrie, Jarry or Saros) and JS global ranking is lower.
He is certainly 65 or even more.
We have plenty of d-men in the pipeline and we have needs in forwards with size.
If he is available at 71st, then let's pick him.
Taking him in second round seems very fast.
The fact Jordan in a strong draft year is ranked at 55 vs his brother in 2007 at 102 says what?
If you don't like the article's format take it up with the Managing editor Ken not here. You are a moderator for HF's forums.
Second, you might want to try reading it again and maybe you will understand it better now. I only have so much space not pages and I can't give my full opinion. Seriously, who has a crystal ball to pick exactly which player will go at what number for the 2013 NHL draft. Nobody knows which players will fall or rise. If you do then go work for Bergevin because he's going to need your help.
My pick of Samuel Morin was in the "HF Staff Mock draft" like it states in the article. I can't trade up and have to wait my turn then choose who I think the Canadiens will target given what players are still available. I was lucky enough to find Morin available so I thought it was a no brainer to take him. I believe that if he's there on draft day and he could be, who knows, then the Habs will select him because I am sure the teams after them definitely will. He's not falling out of the 1st round.
Thanks for at least reading the article and making comments. It is appreciated but knock an article without knowing all the facts. Thanks!
If you don't like the article's format take it up with the Managing editor Ken not here. You are a moderator for HF's forums.
Second, you might want to try reading it again and maybe you will understand it better now. I only have so much space not pages and I can't give my full opinion. Seriously, who has a crystal ball to pick exactly which player will go at what number for the 2013 NHL draft. Nobody knows which players will fall or rise. If you do then go work for Bergevin because he's going to need your help.
My pick of Samuel Morin was in the "HF Staff Mock draft" like it states in the article. I can't trade up and have to wait my turn then choose who I think the Canadiens will target given what players are still available. I was lucky enough to find Morin available so I thought it was a no brainer to take him. I believe that if he's there on draft day and he could be, who knows, then the Habs will select him because I am sure the teams after them definitely will. He's not falling out of the 1st round.
Thanks for at least reading the article and making comments. It is appreciated but knock an article without knowing all the facts. Thanks!
if we manage to get ristolainen at 25... O_O, cant see that happening tho
Hockey news draft preview as Jordan Subban at no 67... no way in hell.. i would say he is gone around 45 worst case scenario who wouldnt like a bryan rafalski? We all know subbans are tough and durable.... but for whatever reason if he is available in round 3 you take him and run cause its a robbery.
Maybe so but once the draft will start he will go higher than the scouts think cause gm's are little bit nervous guys.. and will fold under his last name. Its a lot easier to justifiy a bust with subban as a name than say.. Busto lolI made an average ranking with Red Line, Future consideration, THN and McKeen's, and he's outside the top two rounds. Not saying he will on draft day, but it seems to be the consensus.
Someone can't take a little criticism. He is right, for an article that is suppose to be a draft preview, it has very little in it about the draft as a whole. It reads much more like a recap of the past season and what not.
This being said, the addition of another talented large blue liner is not a terrible idea but it needs to be someone that can skate. According to your own(?) analysis Morin does have some skating issues which always worry me.
thing is, the article doesn't really go into much depth or detail about what the team will try to do at the draft...
writing about the results of an office mock draft doesn't really = "Draft preview", with or without a post-season recap.
Take a look around this board, and you'll find quite a few draft preview type posts by guys who have done an much better job at speculating what the habs might do during the draft...
FYI, his post was hardly a "knock", it was a very simple statement (accurate at that), followed by a pretty fair question.
instead of reacting defensively to it, and passive aggressively taking issue with his post (a disingenuous smiley doesn't change the content of a post), you'd be much better served taking his, & others, constructive criticism to heart and use it to improve further offerings.
this board is probably one of the best places to find constructive criticism for someone with a passion for sports writing... and while there are a lot of juvenile posts/posters to weed through, it wouldn't take much looking around to figure out that commentary from a poster like overlords is exactly the kind of feedback you should be looking for.
it's not like he was nit-picking you for silly statements like:
"The Canadiens will need continued growth from P.K. Subban"
--> while it's true that all teams would want continued growth from all of their players, unless the aim was to make redundant redundant commentary, it's pretty silly to argue the habs "need" growth from their norris winning dman. If Subban's game plateaued where it was this season, the habs or any other team in the league would be thrilled to have him just at the level he is. In their pantheon of needs, Subban improving has got to be near the bottom of the pile.
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--> might have saved you some word space by simply writing "Good hockey players are what the Canadiens will be..." Stating the obvious doesn't really make for a great way of closing an article...
he didn't go anywhere near those or the other "low hanging fruit" to knock the article, you're reaction to his minor commentary was way over the top, and just brought greater scrutiny for a piece that was probably better served quietly fading into the back pages.
Fucale ! we need a goalie!