OT: MLB 2020 Discussion Opening Day and beyond

[glenwo2]

3-0 W over the brew crew…..f*** yes,

and what killer boxscore….hendricks wow

Brewers vs. Cubs | 07/24/20

59 games to go!!!

So what do you think about the DH being in the NL?

 

[Jack Be Quick]

Thanks Cespedes.

Try not to get injured sober while chasing a raccoon out of the trap you had set for it in the stairwell of your hotel.

I couldn't be less excited for baseball if the Braves and Phillies were playing each other in the world series.

Knowing that franchise, this is the year they finally take it.

 

[njdevils1982]

So what do you think about the DH being in the NL?

it is what it is in c-19 times ……i always liked the 2 leagues having different rules, i hope it will go back to that again

that said, it gives schwarber his 'proper' role as a DH…..as he's below average in OF duties as a fielder…he can also play C

 

[Jack Be Quick]

it is what it is in c-19 times ……i always liked the 2 leagues having different rules, i hope it will go back to that again

that said, it gives schwarber his 'proper' role as a DH…..as he's below average in OF duties as a fielder…he can also play C

This and the ridiculously different dimensions of the fields has always diminished baseball as a professional sport imo.

 

[njdevils1982]

This and the ridiculously different dimensions of the fields has always diminished baseball as a professional sport imo.

i love the strange fields of baseball, so many interesting quirks…... try hitting a home run to dead center at the polo grounds

The Absurdity That Was The Polo Grounds

 

[Jack Be Quick]

i love the strange fields of baseball, so many interesting quirks…... try hitting a home run to dead center at the polo grounds

To each their own.

Try kicking a field goal from your own 37 yard line on an 82 yard field.

Do you own a team who has an inordinate amount of European players and scouts? Sweet. Build an IIHF rink.

It's an odd anomaly that doesn't exist in any other sport.

 

[njdevils1982]

To each their own.

Try kicking a field goal from your own 37 yard line on an 82 yard field.

Do you own a team who has an inordinate amount of European players and scouts? Sweet. Build an IIHF rink.

It's an odd anomaly that doesn't exist in any other sport.

its the first law in fifa

Length (touch line):
minimum 90 m
maximum 120 m

Width (goal line):
minimum 45 m
maximum 90 m

(100 yds) (130 yds) (50 yds) (100 yds)

https://img.fifa.com/image/upload/datdz0pms85gbnqy4j3k.pdf

 

[Jack Be Quick]

its the first law in fifa

Length (touch line):
minimum 90 m
maximum 120 m

Width (goal line):
minimum 45 m
maximum 90 m

(100 yds) (130 yds) (50 yds) (100 yds)

https://img.fifa.com/image/upload/datdz0pms85gbnqy4j3k.pdf

You want me to scroll through a 144 page fifa document?

How about you just break it down for me.

Does the premier league, serie A, la liga, or Bundesliga allow teams to decide different sizes of the pitch during league play?

And does the World Cup not have a standardized field?

Edit: a brief amount of research shows at most it varies by a few yards in league play, which on such a massive field and given the nature of the sport is negligible. Hardly the difference between 377ft and 420ft to center field in baseball. The corners are an even greater disparity.

 

[njdevils1982]

You want me to scroll through a 144 page fifa document?

How about you just break it down for me.

Does the premier league, serie A, la liga, or Bundesliga allow teams to decide different sizes of the pitch during league play?

And does the World Cup not have a standardized field?

Edit: a brief amount of research shows at most it varies by a few yards in league play, which on such a massive field and given the nature of the sport is negligible. Hardly the difference between 377ft and 420ft to center field in baseball. The corners are an even larger disparity.

its on page 7 for the pitch sizes

the mls NYCFC which play in yankee stadium is the smallest allowed for international guidelines 70 x 110 yards just fitting into the constraints of the structure

 

[Jack Be Quick]

its on page 7 for the pitch sizes

the mls NYCFC which play in yankee stadium is the smallest allowed for international guidelines 70 x 110 yards

I know there are plenty of Red Bulls fans here, so I'm not trying to be an ass, but MLS is somewhere between the German league and the lesser Swedish league (ice hockey).

If you'd like to compare MLB to their Korean counterparts, be my guest.

 

[NJDevs26]

MLB fields may have different dimensions but it's 'always' been that way. It's actually not as egregious now as it used to be when you had 460 feet to dead center in Yankee Stadium and 270 feet down the line in the Polo Grounds.

 

[NJDevs26]

i love the strange fields of baseball, so many interesting quirks…... try hitting a home run to dead center at the polo grounds

The Absurdity That Was The Polo Grounds

And it's not like there's a huge difference in runs scored per field, other than Coors and a couple other egregious hitter/pitcher tilted parks, and Coors actually has bigger dimensions than most to try to compensate for the ball carrying in thin air.

 

[Ripshot 43]

I’ve always enjoyed the unique qualities each park could have by having different dimensions/landmarks. It gave them personality.

 

[JrFischer54]

i love the strange fields of baseball, so many interesting quirks…... try hitting a home run to dead center at the polo grounds

The Absurdity That Was The Polo Grounds

i'm not a huge fan of baseball just casual interest. that being said man do i love looking and reading about ball parks. other sports I get wanting to have a uniformed field of play but for baseball i am on board with the different cuts to the fields.

 

[JrFischer54]

what were the opinions on the new extra inning rule used last night? i know a lot of the purists will be upset but you really can't be having regular season games go 13-15-20 innings just isn't smart imo. i know its not often they go that long but only takes a few times to leave a sour taste

 

[njdevils1982]

what were the opinions on the new extra inning rule used last night? i know a lot of the purists will be upset but you really can't be having regular season games go 13-15-20 innings just isn't smart imo. i know its not often they go that long but only takes a few times to leave a sour taste

i get why the rule is being used but its the baseball version of the shootout gimmick…..hard pass for me

 

[JrFischer54]

i get why the rule is being used but its the baseball version of the shootout gimmick…..hard pass for me

yeah thats exactly it the shootout.

honestly when ties were a thing i hated them. now shootouts i hate and wish for ties to return after a 3on3 is played and still no winner. i wonder if after some time baseball fans will come to hate this and wish for ties to come to the sport

 

[Jack Be Quick]

And it's not like there's a huge difference in runs scored per field, other than Coors and a couple other egregious hitter/pitcher tilted parks, and Coors actually has bigger dimensions than most to try to compensate for the ball carrying in thin air.

That's simply not the case. There's a pretty vast dispartiy in runs scored by stadium.

2019 MLB Park Factors - Runs - Major League Baseball - ESPN

And I find it hard to believe the right porch in Comerica being 350ft to Fenway's 302 doesn't make a significant difference - not to mention the goofy wall. That's the difference between a pop fly and a 2 run shot, a comical distinction.

May as well let some NBA teams put in 12 foot rims.

 

[njdevils1982]

That's simply not the case. There's a pretty vast dispartiy in runs scored by stadium.

2019 MLB Park Factors - Runs - Major League Baseball - ESPN

And I find it hard to believe the right porch in Comerica being 350ft to Fenway's 302 doesn't make a significant difference - not to mention the goofy wall. That's the difference between a pop fly and a 2 run shot, a comical distinction.

May as well let some NBA teams put in 12 foot rims.

ted williams feasted on the short right field when the bullpens were put there……


also, i equate the differences in ballparks to that of different golf courses in their uniqueness

 

[NJDevs26]

That's simply not the case. There's a pretty vast dispartiy in runs scored by stadium.

2019 MLB Park Factors - Runs - Major League Baseball - ESPN

And I find it hard to believe the right porch in Comerica being 350ft to Fenway's 302 doesn't make a significant difference - not to mention the goofy wall. That's the difference between a pop fly and a 2 run shot, a comical distinction.

May as well let some NBA teams put in 12 foot rims.

Yankee Stadium being somehow rated the second best 'pitchers' park' below Dodger Stadium and the Oakland cavern invalidates the value of that metric to me.

Of course it makes a small difference (as does weather/wind in the outdoor stadiums compared to the domes) but even in a launch angle and juiced ball world the vast majority of batted balls aren't 350-400 foot fly balls and both teams are playing in the same stadium for the same game.

There's no way of ever getting totally uniform across the board even if you wanted to unless you raze every stadium at the same time including Wrigley and Fenway and made them all cookie-cutter domes.

also, i equate the differences in ballparks to that of different golf courses in their uniqueness

Not a golf fan but that's a good comparison.

 

[njdevils1982]

Yankee Stadium being rated the second best 'pitchers' park' below Dodger Stadium and the Oakland cavern invalidates the value of that metric to me.

Of course it makes a small difference (as does weather/wind in the outdoor stadiums compared to the domes) but even in a launch angle and juiced ball world the vast majority of batted balls aren't 350-400 foot fly balls and both teams are playing in the same stadium for the same game. There's no way of ever getting totally uniform even if you wanted to unless you raze every stadium at the same time including Wrigley and Fenway.

kept your dirty paws off of wrigley!!!!

 

[NJDevs26]

kept your dirty paws off of wrigley!!!!

I'm glad I got there at least once tbh...and it was a good game, Cubs beat the Cardinals and Carlos Zambrano (the pitcher) jacked a three-run HR into the bleachers. Pujols also had a HR too heh.

Still never gotten to Fenway or Dodger Stadium.

 

[njdevils1982]

I'm glad I got there at least once tbh...and it was a good game, Cubs beat the Cardinals and Carlos Zambrano (the pitcher) jacked a three-run HR into the bleachers. Pujols also had a HR too heh.

i cant believe i've never been there yet

my brother did catch a game there a few years ago….(also a cubs fan…..we got hooked as kids visiting relatives in the mid 80's)

 

[Jack Be Quick]

ted williams feasted on the short right field when the bullpens were put there……


also, i equate the differences in ballparks to that of different golf courses in their uniqueness

Fair

 

[glenwo2]

The Extra Inning rule was GARBAGE.

It essentially gave the Braves the win over NY.

And it didn't give Strickland a shot at having potentially a clean inning of work.