Proposal: Mittelstadt (BUF) for Mercer (NJ)

[MakeCgyGreatAgain]

Mercer is a pretty special player and he’s so young that there’s so much room to grow. I can understand why every team would want him. I’d love him on the Flames. But I would think it would be unlikely for Jersey to part with him

 

[Goptor]

Sabres should be looking at something like Zacha for Haula type trade.

Target a player who fills a badly needed role and commands a modest salary. Give up the better talent but create a better team.

 

[Chainshot]

You don't understand on ice shooting percentage

Some aren't understanding that it's the aggregate of all of the Sabres players on the ice when he's on the ice, not just his individual shooting percentage. I don't think some're going to get that as a concern even if they can get what it actually is.

 

[dirtydanglez]

bad match. both need a goalie

 

[jjniner]

Mitts and a second for Buchnevich

 

[KovalchukFistPump]

Mittelstadt is about to be an RFA and has zero reason to take a discount with the Devils (think about how Meier took top money to sign while Bratt and JHughes probably took less). So there's no fit for the Devils who will be cap strapped very soon when they have to decent money to some goalie and then account for LHughes and Nemec' raises in a year and two.

Mercer can be bridged at lowish money given that he's not having that great a year. I'm actually against committing any sort of long term deal to him. I'd rather keep the cap hit as low as possible during his RFA years and spend that money on other pieces (goalie and another defensive D potentially). He might become a 'core' member that you try to keep around at all costs but he also might not. Remember that Kasperi Kapanen looked like that type of player for awhile until he wasn't.

 

[Billdo]

No problem, we will keep out defensively responsible 60-70 point center who is +8 on a bad team and you keep your 40 point center who is -16 on a good team.

Case closed.

Mercer isn't a center but go ahead. 113 less games, one less goal. -29 differential too. Good luck bud.

 

[is the answer jesus]

Mercer isn't a center but go ahead. 113 less games, one less goal. -29 differential too. Good luck bud. View attachment 818804

Mittelstadt isn't a goal scorer, he's definitely more of a playmaker, so he'll obviously lag in the goal scoring department. +/- is also a terrible metric to use as it's massively influenced by the quality of the team the player is on, there's little doubt that NJ has and has had a better overall team than the Sabres. There doesn't need to be a shit throwing contest between the two fanbases involved here. I'd rather have Mittelstadt because he's a true center, who's developed a great two way game. If necessary I'd move him in a deal that addresses a need for Buffalo. Dawson Mercer doesn't really address any sort of need. I have no issue with Devils fans who'd prefer to keep Mercer and gamble on his upside, the cost controlled years also seem to be an added benefit.

 

[Billdo]

Mittelstadt isn't a goal scorer, he's definitely more of a playmaker, so he'll obviously lag in the goal scoring department. +/- is also a terrible metric to use as it's massively influenced by the quality of the team the player is on, there's little doubt that NJ has and has had a better overall team than the Sabres. There doesn't need to be a shit throwing contest between the two fanbases involved here. I'd rather have Mittelstadt because he's a true center, who's developed a great two way game. If necessary I'd move him in a deal that addresses a need for Buffalo. Dawson Mercer doesn't really address any sort of need. I have no issue with Devils fans who'd prefer to keep Mercer and gamble on his upside, the cost controlled years also seem to be an added benefit.

My response was directly related to the state in which the person I quoted used. I like Mittelstadt but there's no reason for NJ to move Mercer for him.

 

[is the answer jesus]

My response was directly related to the state in which the person I quoted used. I like Mittelstadt but there's no reason for NJ to move Mercer for him.

Yeah I get that and while I understand that specific posters point that Buffalo isn't moving a guy in Mitts that has broken out and become one of our best players he clearly missed the mark on Mercer. There's a lot to like there and calling a young guy who's still developing a "40 point player" based on one partial season is certainly disingenuous.

 

[toddkaz]

Mercer isn't a center but go ahead. 113 less games, one less goal. -29 differential too. Good luck bud. DView attachment 818804

Cool, if I am a GM I am trading for the player now not 3 years ago.

But you do you.

 

[Billdo]

Cool, if I am a GM I am trading for the player now not 3 years ago.

But you do you.

That's kind of a silly way to look at it, no? It ignores their previous work and focuses solely on like 2/3s of a season.

 

[Djp]

My response was directly related to the state in which the person I quoted used. I like Mittelstadt but there's no reason for NJ to move Mercer for him.

This w
Thread was not posted by a sabres fan. Your analysis isheabily skewed toward early yr misd management. Most here would have had him play in ahl is first fee years of 18/19, 19/20.

 

[toddkaz]

That's kind of a silly way to look at it, no? It ignores their previous work and focuses solely on like 2/3s of a season.

If you want to trade based on what a player did 3 years ago you should trade for Huberdeau. I bet he is dirt cheap.

 

[DJN21]

You don't understand on ice shooting percentage

you should say on ice shooting percentage one more time....it's probably one of those the more you hear it kinda things....

If we made a drinking game out of it everyone in this thread would be loaded by now....

 

[toddkaz]

My response was directly related to the state in which the person I quoted used. I like Mittelstadt but there's no reason for NJ to move Mercer for him.

Dude I never proposed the trade. Check yourself, go after the OP for posting it.

 

[Billdo]

Dude I never proposed the trade. Check yourself, go after the OP for posting it.

Didn't say you did but you were who I was responding to. You're the one who mentioned the stats.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Mercer is better

 

[DJN21]

Mercer is better

no...no not yet but thats kinda the point of trading for immediate help and the cost of later help (maybe). Thats basically how most trades go.

 

[Xirik]

no...no not yet but thats kinda the point of trading for immediate help and the cost of later help (maybe). Thats basically how most trades go.

The divide (if there really is any) between the players is not large enough to warrant a trade.

 

[DJN21]

The divide (if there really is any) between the players is not large enough to warrant a trade.

we have pages of Sabres fans saying if we make any trade at all its for a top 4man....legit no offense to devils fans or you or OP...we dont want or need Mercer....like at all. Please keep him...

 

[toddkaz]

Didn't say you did but you were who I was responding to. You're the one who mentioned the stats.

Ya cause I am not interested in the trade and every stat that I posted was factual.

Its not my fault you have having trouble with it.

 

[Billdo]

Ya cause I am not interested in the trade and every stat that I posted was factual.

Its not my fault you have having trouble with it.

Nobody's having trouble. I understand that you value this 50 game stretch more than the previous 2 years. That's fine. Good luck to you.

 

[Nocashstyle]

Ya cause I am not interested in the trade and every stat that I posted was factual.

It’s not my fault you have having trouble with it.

I love how to you Mittlestadt having a career = progress and development, but Mercer having a poor year, but is younger and has produced better than Mittlestadt at the same age = finished product.

 

[AirGut]

Kakko for Mittelstadt??