Proposal: Mittelstadt (BUF) for Mercer (NJ)

[Monsieur Verdoux]

This came up to my mind when I read the latest Trade Watch List from The Fourth Period. I know it's not always the most reliable source, and I don't expect this to happen, but let's discuss this just for fun.

"9. Casey Mittelstadt, C - Buffalo Sabres​

The Sabres are taking calls on Mittelstadt, who can become an RFA this July. As TFP’s David Pagnotta reported, the Sabres are interested in a talent-for-talent swap and are not looking to move him for future assets. While this could be a move that happens in the summer, momentum could build between the time of this update and deadline day."

Last year Mercer's value was probably higher than Mittelstadt's, now it's the opposite.


Mercer + 2nd


Mittelstadt

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[CraigsList]

I don’t see the incentive. Mittelstadt is hardly an upgrade from Mercer imo.

 

[Monsieur Verdoux]

I don’t see the incentive. Mittelstadt is hardly an upgrade from Mercer imo.

Yeah, you're might be right. I'm mostly stat watching Mittelstadt, so I'm not sure how good he really is.

 

[HugeInTheShire]

Not the direction NJ should be going in a trade at all.

 

[toddkaz]

I don’t see the incentive. Mittelstadt is hardly an upgrade from Mercer imo.

No problem, we will keep out defensively responsible 60-70 point center who is +8 on a bad team and you keep your 40 point center who is -16 on a good team.

Case closed.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

No problem, we will keep out defensively responsible 60-70 point center and you keep your 40 point center who is -16 on a good team.

Case closed.

Where was Mittlestadt 3 years ago?

I'm a big fan of his but Mercer is a perfect fit for the Devils moving forward.

 

[Zman5778]

The value seems fine........but I don't see the point. Mercer can hopefully become what Mitts is now, and I don't think that's the kind of deal Adams is looking for.

 

[toddkaz]

Where was Mittlestadt 3 years ago?

I'm a big fan of his but Mercer is a perfect fit for the Devils moving forward.

Ummm...developing? How dare he at 22 develop more. Who cares about 3 years ago. Bad take.

As a GM you gonna make a trade based on stats from 3 years ago? Come on man.

 

[CraigsList]

No problem, we will keep out defensively responsible 60-70 point center and you keep your 40 point center who is -16 on a good team.

Case closed.

Never has scored 70 points, has never hit 20 goals, and the player acquired is 3 years younger. Mittelstadt is currently playing his best hockey but you’re sleeping on Dawson where all Devils are kind of having an off year.

 

[Zman5778]

I'm mostly stat watching Mittelstadt, so I'm not sure how good he really is.

Mitts is a legit NHL 2C going forward. Defensively responsible, a beast on the backcheck and is super hard to separate from the puck once he's got it. Very good passer with an underrated shot that he needs to use more.

 

[toddkaz]

Never has scored 70 points, has never hit 20 goals, and the player acquired is 3 years younger. Mittelstadt is currently playing his best hockey but you’re sleeping on Dawson where all Devils are kind of having an off year.

He is on track for 67. So does my statement hold true? 60-70. Falls in the upper part of that.

I never said I wanted Mercer. I said close the thread, keep him. You dont have to try to sell the trade to me.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

Ummmmmmmmmmm...developing? How dare he at 22 develop more. Who cares about 3 years ago. Bad take.

As a GM you gonna make a trade based on stats from 3 years ago? Come on man.

The point is that Mercer is 3 years behind Mittlestadt.

It's also funny that you called a 25 year old with a career high 59 points a "60-70" point player, while the guy with 56 points last year as a 21 year old is a "40 point" player.

 

[stevo61]

The value seems fine........but I don't see the point. Mercer can hopefully become what Mitts is now, and I don't think that's the kind of deal Adams is looking for.

What are they looking for anyway? Just a different dynamic? More veteran guys? Are they just worried about spending the money on 3 good centers?

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

He is on track for 67. So does my statement hold true? 60-70. Falls in the upper part of that.

I never said I wanted Mercer. I said close the thread, keep him. You dont have to try to sell the trade to me.

With a 12.3% on ice sh% at 5v5 lol.

 

[toddkaz]

The point is that Mercer is 3 years behind Mittlestadt.

It's also funny that you called a 25 year old with a career high 59 points a "60-70" point player, while the guy with 56 points last year as a 21 year old is a "40 point" player.

So, when making a trade are you not trading for what the player will do for your team in the future?

Not what a player did 3 years ago. Its a bad take.

With a 12.3% on ice sh% at 5v5 lol.

So then we agree. You keep Mercer and we keep Mitts.

I never made the trade proposal bud. A devils fan did.

 

[Zman5778]

What are they looking for anyway? Just a different dynamic? More veteran guys? Are they just worried about spending the money on 3 good centers?

I don't think we're actively shopping Mitts unless he's looking for money that is significantly more than Tage and Cozens.

But if we do trade Mitts, I imagine we'd be looking for a legit top 4 RHD and/or a more veteran two-way 3rd line-center type. And more grit.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

So, when making a trade are you not trading for what the player will do for your team in the future?

Not what a player did 3 years ago. Its a bad take.

My point isn't that Mittelstadt is the player he was 3 years ago. It's that Mercer is 3 years younger, and well ahead of where Casey was at that point.

 

[toddkaz]

My point isn't that Mittelstadt is the player he was 3 years ago. It's that Mercer is 3 years younger, and well ahead of where Casey was at that point.

Cool, then we agree. Its a bad trade.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

So then we agree. You keep Mercer and we keep Mitts.

I never made the trade proposal bud. A devils fan did.

You called Mercer being a 40 point player and Mittelstadt a 60-70 point player. Both of those are incorrect.

 

[toddkaz]

You called Mercer being a 40 point player and Mittelstadt a 60-70 point player. Both of those are incorrect.

Mercer is on track for 39 points
Mitts is on track for 67 points

Sounds good to me.

 

[Guttersniped]

Buffalo is drowning in young C/W talent, they seem like the last team who would be intrigued by Mercer. They don’t need to get younger.

 

[tsujimoto74]

Not sure why people keep making proposals that send Buffalo backwards. The team has plainly said that’s not the direction it’s trying to move in trades.

 

[Remparts666]

I don't think we're actively shopping Mitts unless he's looking for money that is significantly more than Tage and Cozens.

But if we do trade Mitts, I imagine we'd be looking for a legit top 4 RHD and/or a more veteran two-way 3rd line-center type. And more grit.

Can you think of examples of legit top 4 rhd with terms that teams would be willing to let go while being able cap wise to sign mitts long term at 7m per year? Just being genuinely curious here not trolling

 

[Captain Mountain]

I don’t see the incentive. Mittelstadt is hardly an upgrade from Mercer imo.

I think you can argue fit, need and how players may project going forward, but right now Mittelstadt is a massive upgrade to Mercer.

 

[Zman5778]

Can you think of examples of legit top 4 rhd with terms that teams would be willing to let go while being able cap wise to sign mitts long term at 7m per year? Just being genuinely curious here not trolling

I have zero idea. My GUESS is that it'd either have to be a younger RHD with the legit potential to be a long-term top 4 RHD or we'd have to package something with Mitts to get an already-established top 4 RHD.

As far as who? No idea. I've got a lot of "ifs". IF Colorado had a spare RHD, they'd be a fit. I wonder if Nashville could be a fit....but Fabbro would be the only RHD that could be of interest. Boston would be a tremendous fit.....but Carlo would be the only RHD of interest, and I doubt he'd move. Calgary could be a fit, but Weegar isn't available and what would we need to add to get Andersson?

Lots of ifs, but nothing really "good".