Miscellaneous NHL Talk V10.0 - 2018/19 Regular Season

[baudib1]

For all the complaints about the defense, the team is giving up about the same amount of shots as last year, and we are above league average in that regard. The team also has fewer giveaways than last year. No one was screaming about needing a Top 4 defenseman coming into this season. Myers could very easily be better than any defenseman who's available. If Fletcher doesn't give Myers a full shot and goes into the offseason and adds some washed-up mediocrity like Vlasic I'll be downright furious.

Friedman also deserves a shot and Myers, heading into his Draft +7 year, probably deserves a look as well.

 

[Magua]

I stumbled upon this thread in the Trade section. Canes fans laughing at the proposal and vociferously declining. We have reached peak madness. My evens cannot.


To : RD Brett Pesce, C Micheal Ferland and a conditional 2019 3rd round pick


To : RW Jakub Voracek, LDorRD Shayne Gostisbehere

 

[FatTugboatFlahr]

Ghost is tiny as shit.

 

[baudib1]

I don't want Pesce or Ferland.

 

[kudymen]

Maybe they are really really really high on their 3rd round pick

 

[JojoTheWhale]

Maybe they are really really really high on their 3rd round pick

3rd rounders could be anyone -- maybe even Shayne Gostisbehere if you get lucky.

 

[Outlaw Samurai]

If that boob valued Lucic enough to give him 7 years, he sure as **** has a hard-on for Simmer.

Well done using hard-on and boob in a sentence referring to hockey

 

[sabremike]

He still doesn't get it...

But don't forget: if you tank you are pure evil and worse than Hitler and destroying the sport and I hope you fail. Except if you are the Leafs, in which case you are brilliant and worthy of endless praise!

 

[Curufinwe]

Fletcher is tanking but Meltzer won't admit it.

 

[Outlaw Samurai]

He has to be tanking. He can't be this dense otherwise. It's curious with Scott and Homer around. Even if it's logical those two don't seem the logical type.

 

[deadhead]

Tanking doesn't make sense, it doesn't improve the odds by enough to matter.
Unless a miracle occurs, we're gonna finish in the bottom five and get someone who's probably NHL ready next year.

Trading for assets does matter, and players like AMac, Weise, Folin, have to play to show they're healthy and can contribute to have any hope of obtaining some value for them. Folin and Weise have value as depth players, they have well defined roles for the right team. AMac has played well enough to be veteran depth, but Flyers would have to eat half his contract. Laughton, Raffl, Simmonds are pretty much known quantities, though a team might want to see more of Laughton in different roles to determine his fit.

Given the way the Flyers have drafted lately, I might stockpile 4th to 6th rd picks and trade 2nd and 3rd rd picks for NHL ready players.

 

[baudib1]

Trade Hagg. Folin has no trade value.

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

He still doesn't get it...

The fact that he thinks we still need to get vets and shell out a f*** load of money for players like that is flawed considering how deep the Flyers prospect pool is. Yeah, let's spend several million on a few players just so we can keep the younger, better players away from the NHL.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Toronto & Buffalo we’re actively tanking in previous years in the sense that they were making moves in season that made them lose more.

That’s tanking, being bad & bottoming out isn’t tanking. If the Flyers were tanking they’d be doing something like running McKenna out more opposed to the one start he got on a back to back.

Fletcher essentially threw in the towel at this point & is buying time leading up to the deadline to offload some players.

I don’t really care if a team is actively tanking but some people get so triggered by that word & apply it to situations where it doesn’t even fit.

 

[kudymen]

3rd rounders could be anyone -- maybe even Shayne Gostisbehere if you get lucky.

They can even be a Goulbourne!

 

[VladDrag]

3rd rounders could be anyone -- maybe even Shayne Gostisbehere if you get lucky.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

its a catch 22 tho isnt it if you want to get rid of the garbage and call up the kids. That happens I want to see the kids play well. Even if it means finishing higher in the standings.
I get the need to want that high pick, but we all should want the kids to play well.

 

[Tripod]

The best way to be "much better" next year would be to let Myers iron the kinks out for 35 games in the NHL this season. He's clearly more advanced than Hagg and Morin were halfway thru their 21 year old seasons. And the Flyers are using mediocre-at-best vets Folin and MacDonald right now.

Playing Myers now makes even more sense when you think in March/April, we will want to get Morin in some games too.

I stumbled upon this thread in the Trade section. Canes fans laughing at the proposal and vociferously declining. We have reached peak madness. My evens cannot.


To : RD Brett Pesce, C Micheal Ferland and a conditional 2019 3rd round pick


To : RW Jakub Voracek, LDorRD Shayne Gostisbehere

Note to everyone....I did not start this thread, nor would I do this...lol.

 

[Tripod]

I liked this post in the Oilers thread where they say they need forwards:

*Drafts forwards 10th, 1st, 1st, 1st, 3rd, 1st, 4th, 22nd overall in last 10 years*

*Has no forwards*


How sad is that, folks?

 

[deadhead]

Problem is Edmonton simply can't find serviceable bodies later in the draft.
Draft picks outside the first round who have played 200+ games:
Tobias Reider - #114-2011
Aaron Lander - #40-2009
Chris Vandervelde - #95-2005

 

[Beef Invictus]

Edmonton needs forwards but is willing to trade up and coming forwards


Wait what?

 

[wankstifier]

Voracek for Benn or Seguin is a trade that might be feasible. Lot of front office drama in Dallas right now

 

[kudymen]

Jake would get eaten alive by the Stars CEO in as early as February

 

[Stizzle]

Edmonton needs forwards but is willing to trade up and coming forwards


Wait what?

 

[Beef Invictus]

Voracek for Benn or Seguin is a trade that might be feasible. Lot of front office drama in Dallas right now

I'm in. I'm skeptical that Voracek fits here anymore.