Miscellaneous NHL Talk V10.0 - 2018/19 Regular Season

[The Madrigal]

The frustrating thing is that we passed on Debrincat, TWICE. 28 goals last year and on pace for 40 this year.....ugghh.

 

[baudib1]

Many people here wanted him.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

The frustrating thing is that we passed on Debrincat, TWICE. 28 goals last year and on pace for 40 this year.....ugghh.

Which you would have killed them for taking at the time because he would have been considered a reach. Same as Frost. Sure feels like a time to learn a lesson.

 

[baudib1]

Which you would have killed them for taking at the time because he would have been considered a reach. Same as Frost. Sure feels like a time to learn a lesson.

Don't think he's a reach at the Laberge spot. Pretty sure half the people in the thread were calling for him to be the pick at the time.

 

[Outlaw Samurai]

Can you guys please stop chronicling the history of VdV. Mistakes were made.

Worst book ever and very, very heavy.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

Don't think he's a reach at the Laberge spot. Pretty sure half the people in the thread were calling for him to be the pick at the time.

The poster I replied to spent the entirety of draft night 1 in 2017 screaming up and down that Frost was an off the board pick and thus horrible because of McKenzie/scouting service rankings. DeBrincat was largely in the 30s+, same as Frost.

Neither was a reach, as once you get beyond a tier that usually ends in the teens, it's personal preference.

 

[baudib1]

From The Athletic, Cooper on rookie defenseman Erik Cernak:

“If there’s a surprise, it’s that he’s getting better,” Cooper said. “You sit and say, ‘OK, this kid is going to play in the NHL, it’s a matter of when. But there’s still some development to do.’ But he’s stepped right in, played with (McDonagh). … The one thing that he has done is he can handle the big boys. He can skate with the big boys. That’s the one thing that maybe we didn’t give him enough credit for until you see him do it.
“There’s nobody in the league we’ve seen yet that he hasn’t been able to handle physically. I’m not saying he’s going to win that battle, but at least it’s 50-50. And that’s good on a team that doesn’t have a lot of big guys.”

Noteworthy that Tampa plays a kid that they're not even sure can handle the big boys, someone they believe needs development, but they know he gives the team much-needed physicality.

 

[Curufinwe]

So he can play for the league's best team, but Myers can't play for the league's 28th best team.

 

[The Madrigal]

Which you would have killed them for taking at the time because he would have been considered a reach. Same as Frost. Sure feels like a time to learn a lesson.

Revisionist history. At 22 yes, at 35 he wouldn't have been a reach at all nor would I have complained. I'm not even complaining now, I realize hindsight is 20/20. I'm just saying it sucks that they could have had him. Thanks for playing.

 

[Magua]

Me too. Not picking Bellows was really disappointing at the time.

At least people learned their lesson clamoring for a one dimensional goal scorer come draft time.

 

[Chinatown88]

At least people learned their lesson clamoring for a one dimensional goal scorer come draft time.

 

[Ghosts Beer]

Don't think he's a reach at the Laberge spot. Pretty sure half the people in the thread were calling for him to be the pick at the time.

I know I wanted him over Laberge.

 

[deadhead]

So again, all the problems go back to Hakstol. THAT is what Hextall deserves to be crucified for. THAT is where he failed.

It goes back to Hextall, because whoever Hakstol put out there, y'all would have hated.
Because they all sucked. And I might point out, other than Weise and Lehtera, are all gone, and those two are headed out the door.

And I don't blame Hextall for not spending assets he didn't have, I blame him for not admitting he was rebuilding and committing to it, instead of trying to be competitive and stretching out the rebuild for another season.

 

[deadhead]

Rubtsov and Laberge weren't bad picks, just bad luck, there is a difference.
We saw this year that a healthy Rubtsov is potentially a top 9, maybe a top 6 forward.
Hopefully, Laberge will actually get on the ice next year, that kid is freakin' snakebite.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

At least people learned their lesson clamoring for a one dimensional goal scorer come draft time.

Or during a WJC hot streak. I'm a dreamer, I know.

 

[landsbergfan]

Or during a WJC hot streak. I'm a dreamer, I know.

Or the opposite. I love reading the "I wasn't impressed with Jack Hughes at the WJC" takes

 

[kelmitchell]

I know I wanted him over Laberge.

That draft i honestly didnt research so i honestly had no preference on that pick

 

[Magua]

Or the opposite. I love reading the "I wasn't impressed with Jack Hughes at the WJC" takes

He doesn't seem NHL ready to me.

 

[Rebels57]

So he can play for the league's best team, but Myers can't play for the league's 28th best team.

Their organizational philosophy has a lot to do with where they are in the standings and ours has a lot to do with where we are.

It's so f***ing aggravating.

 

[Beef Invictus]

It goes back to Hextall, because whoever Hakstol put out there, y'all would have hated.
Because they all sucked. And I might point out, other than Weise and Lehtera, are all gone, and those two are headed out the door.

And I don't blame Hextall for not spending assets he didn't have, I blame him for not admitting he was rebuilding and committing to it, instead of trying to be competitive and stretching out the rebuild for another season.

Weird how animosity towards those same players has diminished a good deal now that they're being used in a far more sane manner instead of being given tons of high profile time to f*** up in.

Hakstol was an abysmal failure who made every single problem worse. Deal with it.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

The frustrating thing is that we passed on Debrincat, TWICE. 28 goals last year and on pace for 40 this year.....ugghh.

So did everyone else. We also drafted Kevin Marshall ahead of PK Subban.
Scouting isn’t always an exact science.
On the flipside we found Myers and Zamula when everyone else didn’t see anything in either prospect

 

[FLYguy3911]

Bunnaman has 16 points (10 G, 6 A) in 29 NHL games.

Is this a prediction?

 

[MacDonald4MVP]

From The Athletic, Cooper on rookie defenseman Erik Cernak:




Noteworthy that Tampa plays a kid that they're not even sure can handle the big boys, someone they believe needs development, but they know he gives the team much-needed physicality.

Playing alongside mcdonagh and in front of vasi? Just like all those great years girardi had in the same position lol.

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

Me too. Not picking Bellows was really disappointing at the time.

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

From The Athletic, Cooper on rookie defenseman Erik Cernak:

Noteworthy that Tampa plays a kid that they're not even sure can handle the big boys, someone they believe needs development, but they know he gives the team much-needed physicality.

Nothing makes me want to drink bleach more than hearing something like that. All you can do is hope he is fired there and hired here, so that I can stop drinking bleach.