Miscellaneous NHL Talk, 2018 edition

[Rebels57]

Term is costly. Doubt they care. Just keep going until OV retires. Ghosts deal is already one of the best in the league. Should also mean de haan is getting at most 5 mill as the market must not be that great if Carlson went back to the caps so fast.

Anything over $4 for de Haan is overpayment. That will be a rough contract that some team will regret.

 

[Tripod]

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Howe thinks a 2015 redraft would have Provorov first overall...wow. Can’t say I disagree too much. If he continues this was I would think he wins multiple Norris trophies.

Ummmm....McDavid???

2nd....sure.

 

[TheKingPin]

Anything over $4 for de Haan is overpayment. That will be a rough contract that some team will regret.

4 dollars huh? Haha. I’d give him over 4, maybe up to 4.5.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

I’ll eat a shoe if De Haan gets that much. He’s not a type hockeyguys overvalue.

 

[TheKingPin]

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Ummmm....McDavid???

2nd....sure.

I was a little surprised too. McDavid being a generational player. He’s about the only player I’d give up for Provy.

 

[Jray42]

Howe thinks a 2015 redraft would have Provorov first overall...wow. Can’t say I disagree too much. If he continues this was I would think he wins multiple Norris trophies.

McDavid is the obvious #1 there

 

[Winston Wolf]

I’ll eat a shoe if De Haan gets that much. He’s not a type hockeyguys overvalue.

Some Canadian GM will reminisce about how he looked 8 years ago at the WJC and offer him a bloated contract based on that.

 

[TheKingPin]

Some Canadian GM will reminisce about how he looked 8 years ago at the WJC and offer him a bloated contract based on that.

I took him in a keeper league. No bueno.

 

[wankstifier]

Barzal and Eichel should get picked over Provorov.

Hanifin, Werenski, and Boeser are in the mix as well

 

[Striiker]

No Metro teams

 

[Deadpool8812]

Lol Carlson is making same money as hedman.

More actually, but Hedman signed his deal when the cap was $73m

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

If you like movement for the sake of movement Arizona is your team.

 

[deadhead]

Provorov > Barzal, Eichel.
25 minute a night defenseman with scoring chops has more value than a 1C unless that player is elite.
Though I think Provorov is 1-2 years away, he has to integrate his scoring, defense and puck handling (cut way back on turnovers).
By 2020-21 I expect him to be an elite defenseman, and one of the top ten players in the NHL.

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

Provorov > Barzal, Eichel.
25 minute a night defenseman with scoring chops has more value than a 1C unless that player is elite.
Though I think Provorov is 1-2 years away, he has to integrate his scoring, defense and puck handling (cut way back on turnovers).
By 2020-21 I expect him to be an elite defenseman, and one of the top ten players in the NHL.

I wonder how wedded he is to that redwood he uses for a stick.

 

[FLYguy3911]

Timing is everything in sports. Huge playoffs in a contract year = Flacco Money.

 

[wankstifier]

Provorov > Barzal, Eichel.
25 minute a night defenseman with scoring chops has more value than a 1C unless that player is elite.
Though I think Provorov is 1-2 years away, he has to integrate his scoring, defense and puck handling (cut way back on turnovers).
By 2020-21 I expect him to be an elite defenseman, and one of the top ten players in the NHL.

The Provorov hype is out of control

 

[The Madrigal]

The Provorov hype is out of control

I agree. 21 year old number 1 defenseman with upside to be norris winners grow on trees.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

I was totally expecting their pick to be a plug but the guy actually produced at a pretty solid rate despite all those penalties.

Martin Pospisil at eliteprospects.com

 

[deadhead]

Harmonic should be a warning for all you people wanting to trade draft picks for "name" veterans.

 

[FLYguy3911]

Slovakian tough guy? Nice!

 

[wankstifier]

I agree. 21 year old number 1 defenseman with upside to be norris winners grow on trees.

I'm not so sure if Provorov will ever score enough to win a Norris.

Forwards like Eichel and Barzal are rare as well.

 

[Rebels57]

The Provorov hype is out of control

Terrible take

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

So Dougie Hamilton’s been traded twice now for supposed off the ice issues but no one lists any specific evidence as to what. He’s basically just described as a loner whenever anybody tries to give any type of reasons.

 

[The Madrigal]

I'm not so sure if Provorov will ever score enough to win a Norris.

Forwards like Eichel and Barzal are rare as well.

He just had 41 pts as a 20/21 year old with the PP not being a factor. Go look at his numbers in junior, he will easily have some 60+ point seasons and be a regular 50+ point guy. You are selling Provorov's upside way short.

 

[The Madrigal]

So Dougie Hamilton’s been traded twice now for supposed off the ice issues but no one lists any specific evidence as to what. He’s basically just described as a loner whenever anybody tries to give any type of reasons.

There has to be something to it. Defenseman like him dont get traded twice by the time they are 25 years old.