Rossi will have to prove himself in the NHL before he gets PP #1 TOI. Kap, Boldy, and zuccarello also play a similar(and at this point, better) game to him...he makes more sense to me on PP #2, especially because Rossi is mediocre on FO's. I'm fine with JEE or Hartman playing netfront. It would be a real slap in the face to Hartman if he was left completely off the PP after the season he had.
Prospect Info: Minnesota Wild Prospect Rankings #5
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I do understand the reasoning behind making him prove himself, I just don't love the idea of him playing on an island on our PP2. No one is going to look good there. Fiala couldn't make it happen. Boldy was like our top PP producer on PP1 when he first arrived, then he got moved to PP2 by himself and the production dried up. I want to see what Rossi can do right away with other talented players on a PP. To me, making it to the NHL is all the proof I need to put him with Kap and Boldy on the PP.
Chaffee is my bet on the being this year's Duhaime out of camp.
I think Rossi ends up in the AHL for most of the season.
Granlund put up 64pts as a center this past season.
Give him quality wings, he's a quality center.
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A lot of heads are going to explode in here if Gaudreau starts the season as the #2 center and Rossi starts the season in Iowa. I want Rossi to make the team but is he ready for top 6 minutes. I hope so.
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I don't think they are. I think most people here are wholly prepared for that exact scenario to unfold.
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Look at his season point total breakdowns. 29 5v5 points (the same 1.6 p/60 as Greenway), 28 ppp, 3 3v3 ot points, 3 EN points. RyJo centered PP1 and Granny was on the halfwall. He was also -9 (2nd worst FWD on the team).
I think Faber here. Then Ohgren, Peart, and Khusnutdinov.
Not sure ROR is in the top 5 for defensive prospects on this team, let alone for overall prospects. The elements that set him apart from his peers will not do the same at the NHL level and he needs to get his head on straight mentally if he’s going to be in a top 4 as he cannot take the type of penalties he currently does. I think he’s comfortably a 5 when he’s ready and don’t see a skill set to really build further past that.
Not sure ROR is in the top 5 for defensive prospects on this team, let alone for overall prospects. The elements that set him apart from his peers will not do the same at the NHL level and he needs to get his head on straight mentally if he’s going to be in a top 4 as he cannot take the type of penalties he currently does. I think he’s comfortably a 5 when he’s ready and don’t see a skill set to really build further past that.
Rossi was seen as one of the top prospects in the 2020 draft and that was reflected in the lists coming out at the time. He was seen as a franchise center and a 'can't miss' prospect that was NHL ready now. Unfortunately, he got Covid and that pushed back his development a lot. I mean he was supposedly the readiest NHL player outside of Lafreniere. There was even discussion if he was a top 5 draft prospect at the time.
Since then:
Quinn and Holtz both put up better numbers than Rossi in the AHL (PPG), Raymond had a fantastic first season in the NHL, so did Lundell, Stuetzle built upon his year last year, Jarvis had a pretty good season in the NHL as well as Mercer.
I think a lot more analysts have cooled on Rossi and his potential, and while yes, the Wild had to keep him in the AHL because of contract reasons, I think there were expecting a little more from Rossi. And when I say cool, I do think they see Rossi as a top 6 center, but there are questions surrounding his ceiling now and if he can be a franchise center.
Granlund put up 8 goals in his sophomore and third year in the NHL and had 41 and 39 points respectively. He had three seasons as a center in the Wild and it did not work. It wasn't until this season he broke out again as a center and not as a wing, but who knows if that's going to keep up. He also started off pretty hot and then cooled down considerably.
He had 19 points in November and 14 points in April. Outside those two months he was meh.
Because Rossi was seen as an All-World Talent that was NHL ready now.
He was 7th in total points as a rookie, but 10th in PPG. In terms of goals, he was tied for 14th. Assists he was 7th as well. As mentioned, I would have liked to see him in the top 5 for points.
More so, I feel like Rossi is more of a top 25 prospect now than a top 10 prospect in the NHL. That's part of playing your D+2 year in the A...
We’ll see. Chaffee is quite strong, but not that physical. He is more of a scoring winger. If he can change his game to being more of a grinder he might have a spot on the team. I don’t have high hopes for him. If he had Shaws mentality and aggression he’d be perfect.
I wouldn’t mind having Kaprizov, Zuccarello, JEE, Spurgeon and Dumba on PP1, and a core of Addison, Boldy, Rossi on PP2… at least to start the year. Maybe double shift Kap like WAS does with Ovi.
I think we all are hoping that Rossi ends up in the PP1, but it will take time, or a Zucc injury.
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I actually wouldn't be mad at a Boldy-Rossi-Addison combo on PP2. Get those guys experience actually running the PP instead of just capitalizing on Kaprizov. Good point.
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And then something happened. He didn't get a D+1 year. Quinn did, Raymond did, Lundell did, etc... And he was still a PPG player through a good chunk of the season.
41 in 41 and then 12 in 22. What happened in those last 22 games, did he forget how to play? I'm betting not.
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No one is faulting him for that; injuries and things happen. Fiala crashed into the board and that set him back quite a bit from his career. The problem is that fans are taking it personally instead of objectively. Rossi lost his D+1 year and lost a huge chunk of his development, which is why prospects are passing him.
He hit a wall last year and that's fine. He also was apparently dealing with an injury at the end there and that is something that I think is another concern is that Rossi is a bit undersized for a player.
I mean Gaborik was an electrifying player and one of the best in the world - when healthy. But a lot of questions come back to what if Gaborik was healthy? He wouldn't be seen as second tier to a lot of players, but his health played a lot in who Gaborik was and how he developed.
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I feel like if Shaw has a really great off-season and takes that next step, he's going to force a difficult choice for the Wild in training camp. That kid is all fire and I love it.
And they actually have played together on the PP, and looked pretty damn good when they did.
My main thing is that I don't want Rossi playing 4th line for more than a few games. He'd be better off playing 1st line/PP minutes in the AHL. The guy still has only played 70 odd games since being drafted, and has overcome a serious medical condition. A guy like Granlund played close to 200. Boldy, close to 90.
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I like him too, and think he can be a 4th liner. Just not enough speed or skill to do much of anything else, though. His decision making is ok, but not great, either. For a guy like him his in game decisions have to be near perfect, because he doesn't have the edge with his physical characteristics. Dewar makes better decisions, has better speed, a better shot, and can play C...Shaw's temper gets the better of him at times.
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actually could be quite effective.
Kap - Ek - Zucc
Dumba - Spurgeon
Kap - Rossi - Boldy
Brodin for safety if they are worried or Greenway for net front - Addison
Love the double shifting of Kap...maybe have him play shooter on the 2nd unit. I would consider hartman on there... he proved last year that he has a shooter's mentality, which is predictable, in a good way.
I am losing hope in a Greenway breaking out, but he is a load net front.
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