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The only thing that Guerin needs to make clear to Parise is how the Minnesota fans will see him if he's the reason that the Wild have to lose a player like Dumba/Greenway.
Proposal: Min/Ott
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I get your point. If we have to send a 6th or 7th to Seattle (in addition to whatever player they pick)in order to reassure Parise that he won't be picked should he waive his NMC for the ED, then by all means, get it done, BG! The fact that he might be so delusional to think that he would be picked is a whole nother thing.
If Foligno keeps playing the way he is then I think that he will be snapped up at the ED, should Greenway be protected.
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Foligno, Soucy or Hartman would all be great pick-ups for a new team.
Hartman doesn't have a contract after this year. As it stands now, I think Foligno would be picked over Soucy in an instant. Captain material. He would be missed in MN. I don't expect him to score at a .5 PPG, but he is valuable if he is scoring 25-30 points. You don't need many guys like him, but you need at least one, preferably 2 or 3.
That would not be the case. It would be an off season trade. Dumba’s $6m would be replacing the expiring deals of Gudbranson ($4m), Reilly $1.5m) and Coburn ($1.7m).
There is no reason for MN to do an off season trade involving Dumba unless the value is far better than what has been presented here. He would only be traded because of the Seattle ED.
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I dont think Parise gives a shit what the fans think. If he wants to stay in Minnesota he has the right not to waive.
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PoutineSp00nZ
Electricity is really just organized lightning.
I think fans overrate what their opinion means to most of these guys. And I doubt a few fans being pissed that he didn't waive for the expansion draft will carry any significance whatsoever in his life when he hangs up the skates.
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Might also rub some of the coaches, players or management the wrong way of you have the power to keep, say, Greenway in Minnesota, and refuse because "reasons".
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I think that him getting boo'd at whatever thing that he and the team put together because neither can read the room would be a little awkward.
The point is that him waiving doesn't really put him in any danger of leaving Minnesota. He is almost certainly here for the rest of his career and, as such, it's in his own best interest to help keep the roster as strong as possible.
Doesn't see foligno being exposed. I think a deal will be made to protect foligno or he's not going to get exposed at all. After signing extension, Guerin made comment wild don't plan to lose him.
Or wild do 7 & 3 & give something like Adam Beckham to Seattle to protect dumba
In one of the podcast, there was a comment wild are planning to wait until after expansion to sign him
I am relatively certain that Guerin's plan is to trade Dumba before the ED, I just think it's a stupid plan.
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Beyond just the talent, it's also going to be an awkward 4 years in the locker room with him wearing an 'A' after refusing to help the organization keep some of it's better players because "it's my NMC and I just don't want to waive it"
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Phaneuf wasn't from Ottawa. Their situations are not analogous.
J P Parise was beloved in Minnesota as an early North Star, and Zach grew up here, and chose to return here when he had the chance as a FA. His wife is from here. Their families are from here. This is where he will live when he retires.
In general, these situations are ones where both sides are well advised to be respectful, civil, and above all, private. Both sides can make life difficult for the other, should they choose to. Getting an inflamed public involved is the last thing they need.
J P Parise was beloved in Minnesota as an early North Star, and Zach grew up here, and chose to return here when he had the chance as a FA. His wife is from here. Their families are from here. This is where he will live when he retires.
In general, these situations are ones where both sides are well advised to be respectful, civil, and above all, private. Both sides can make life difficult for the other, should they choose to. Getting an inflamed public involved is the last thing they need.
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It’s because dumba is black, shit like that goes around other people’s perceptions due to racism.
Hey man, that’s horrific. Dumba is a really good defenceman, wolanin isn’t, and a second isn’t enough. I don’t think Brannstrom has enough value either.
But idk what Minnesota’s needs are, forwards?
pinto + a top 10 protected first rounder + Alex formenton, probably gets it done. Dumba is a legit top 4 guy signed for two more years at a good rate.
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