Proposal: Min/Ott

[DingDongCharlie]

Honestly, unless it's a #1 center coming back for Dumba+, I don't see Dumba going anywhere. D for D ain't getting it done.

Dumba doesn’t hold the value to be the main piece in a trade for a #1C but I’m sure you already know this.

 

[KaprizovEntitlelist]

Dumba doesn’t hold the value to be the main piece in a trade for a #1C but I’m sure you already know this.

Ask from wild GM is a top 6c

 

[MK9]

Dumba doesn’t hold the value to be the main piece in a trade for a #1C but I’m sure you already know this.

Then you clearly have a disconnect on player value. Which, you clearly didn't know.

 

[DingDongCharlie]

Then you clearly have a disconnect on player value. Which, you clearly didn't know.

The hardest players to acquire in trade are #1C and #1D.

Post a thread or poll for Dumba+ for a #1C. Let’s see the responses you get.

 

[Drewcifer]

I think the Wild are much more likely to trade Greenway than Dumba.

 

[MNWild14]

We have players in the system to replace Dumba though. Menell and Addison. Then again Boldy can replace Greenway

 

[MuckOG]

We have players in the system to replace Dumba though. Menell and Addison. Then again Boldy can replace Greenway

I'd rather keep Greenway and Boldy, both. I like Dumba, but we have options available to fill his spot and save cap space.

I'd be OK with Dumba for Pinto + OTT 2nd

 

[Bazeek]

Letting the expansion draft dictate when/how/if we trade either player would be a mistake. And I think there's an increasingly strong case to be made for asking Parise to waive: he's got more to gain than to lose by doing so at this point.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Letting the expansion draft dictate when/how/if we trade either player would be a mistake. And I think there's an increasingly strong case to be made for asking Parise to waive: he's got more to gain than to lose by doing so at this point.

Yeah. I’m starting to come around on this as a legit possibility, even if we have to technically toss Seattle a little something to do it.

 

[Bobby Terrance]

Honestly, unless it's a #1 center coming back for Dumba+, I don't see Dumba going anywhere. D for D ain't getting it done.

Ya and I want a brand new Porsche
Give your head a shake.

 

[Bazeek]

Yeah. I’m starting to come around on this as a legit possibility, even if we have to technically toss Seattle a little something to do it.

We'd owe Seattle just for getting a player to waive his NMC?

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

We'd owe Seattle just for getting a player to waive his NMC?

Maybe not, but if I’m them, why would I agree to anything for free?

 

[57special]

I'd rather keep Greenway and Boldy, both. I like Dumba, but we have options available to fill his spot and save cap space.

I'd be OK with Dumba for Pinto + OTT 2nd

You really think that Melnyk would be down for increasing his payroll by 6M?

 

[Bazeek]

Maybe not, but if I’m them, why would I agree to anything for free?

I'm just talking about exposing him to protect Greenway and Dumba. I assume they wouldn't even consider actually drafting him over Foligno/Soucy/Hartman/whoever.

 

[MNWild14]

I'd rather keep Greenway and Boldy, both. I like Dumba, but we have options available to fill his spot and save cap space.

I'd be OK with Dumba for Pinto + OTT 2nd

Completely agree. Chances are Menell or Addison will be just fine in Dumba’s place. Plus they’re both younger and cost controlled instead of Dumba’s 6 mil

 

[2Pair]

Maybe not, but if I’m them, why would I agree to anything for free?

What is Seattle agreeing to?

 

[2Pair]

Completely agree. Chances are Menell or Addison will be just fine in Dumba’s place. Plus they’re both younger and cost controlled instead of Dumba’s 6 mil

not at all

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

I'm just talking about exposing him to protect Greenway and Dumba. I assume they wouldn't even consider actually drafting him over Foligno/Soucy/Hartman/whoever.

Maybe I’m not giving him enough credit for coming to that conclusion on his own.

 

[Bazeek]

Maybe I’m not giving him enough credit for coming to that conclusion on his own.

Alright... the idea of sending Seattle a late pick to not take Parise in an effort to assure Parise himself that they won't take him is genuinely funny. In my head, the conversation between him and Guerin that leads up to that is 24 karat gold.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

What is Seattle agreeing to?

I’m probably overthinking the process that would lead Parise to actually do it.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Alright... the idea of sending Seattle a late pick to not take Parise in an effort to assure Parise himself that they won't take him is genuinely funny. In my head, the conversation between him and Guerin that leads up to that is 24 karat gold.

I’m probably overestimating the a-hole-ness of Seattle’s GM too.

 

[Jesus comma Brodin]

not at all

I think several people see Dumba as 2nd pairing defenseman still. Brodin and Dumba are an ELITE top pairing in every metric you can find, and it ain't all Brodin. Their xGF% is the best in the league by pair whose played over 100 mins, and that is largely Dumba. His RAPM chart is almost literally, off the charts.

 

[Bazeek]

I’m probably overestimating the a-hole-ness of Seattle’s GM too.

I'm not sure you're wrong, honestly. The whole world realizing that Parise is basically a $7.5m 4th-liner/healthy scratch is much different than he himself realizing that. I'm hoping that Guerin's the sort of guy that can be tactfully blunt about it, but if it requires some kind of odd arrangement with Seattle I'm not against it. Both Greenway and Dumba have been big contributors to the team's success this year and being forced into trading either would be much worse.

 

[2Pair]

I think several people see Dumba as 2nd pairing defenseman still. Brodin and Dumba are an ELITE top pairing in every metric you can find, and it ain't all Brodin. Their xGF% is the best in the league by pair whose played over 100 mins, and that is largely Dumba. His RAPM chart is almost literally, off the charts.

I get the idea of trading Dumba for help elsewhere and then hoping that Menell/Addison can mitigate the loss of what Dumba brought to the team. But the idea that they can just let him go in the expansion draft and be just fine afterwords is ridiculous.

 

[Jesus comma Brodin]

I get the idea of trading Dumba for help elsewhere and then hoping that Menell/Addison can mitigate the loss of what Dumba brought to the team. But the idea that they can just let him go in the expansion draft and be just fine afterwords is ridiculous.

This. I am open to moving him for the right pieces but just letting him get exposed would be grounds to send our Billy to Sibera.