Confirmed Signing with Link: [MIN] Kevin Fiala re-signs with the Wild (1 year, $5.1M)

[Menzinger]

The caphit is nice for the one season

But should have paid him for term. At this point I won't be surprised if there's an eventual trade.

 

[krutovsdonut]

is this just a deal to pay him what he would get in arbitration?

 

[57special]

is this just a deal to pay him what he would get in arbitration?

Yes. It's a punt by both sides till next year, though personally I think he will be either traded, or more likely, signed to a long term deal in the new year if he shows well in the 1st half of the season. Kevin is a 1st line talent, but they want to see more consistency from him before they commit long term. From his POV, I am sure he would like to see some more talented linemates, so he produce, and demand more in contract negotiations.

 

[HyperX]

Yes. It's a punt by both sides till next year, though personally I think he will be either traded, or more likely, signed to a long term deal in the new year if he shows well in the 1st half of the season. Kevin is a 1st line talent, but they want to see more consistency from him before they commit long term. From his POV, I am sure he would like to see some more talented linemates, so he produce, and demand more in contract negotiations.

Not sure why Minnesota would want to sign him long-term. He will be 29 before they can even think about contending, forgetting how long after the dead cap is gone it would take them to become a competitive roster again.

Theyre in such a unique spot that Im puzzled they took the route they did (buying out those contracts)

 

[57special]

Not sure why Minnesota would want to sign him long-term. He will be 29 before they can even think about contending, forgetting how long after the dead cap is gone it would take them to become a competitive roster again.

Theyre in such a unique spot that Im puzzled they took the route they did (buying out those contracts)

Buying out Parise made sense, as he was not playing. Many Wild fans disagree on the Suter buyout, thinking that he still has some good years left in the tank.

 

[Duck Off]

RFAs who get a one year deal after a two year bridge deal tend to end up on different teams.

The point of a bridge deal is to lead into a longer deal, if it doesn’t the team or player just aren’t into each other or there’s a fundamental disagreement over the value of the player.

It felt like this was headed towards a 2 year deal to get the number down that would have walked him to free agency. This is a reasonable deal for 1 year where he’ll still be an RFA. This also improves his trade value imo

 

[IranCondraAffair]

He gone.

 

[LickTheEnvelope]

Is he a UFA after this next season? Does his 5 gp in 15/16 count as a season played?

A player who is no longer considered to be entry-level, but does not qualify as an unrestricted free agent, becomes a restricted free agent when his contract expires. A player may only declare himself to be an unrestricted free agent if he is over the age of 27 or has played in the league for a minimum of 7 years.

If those 5 games count then it looks like this walks Fiala to UFA status.

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

He gone.

...yup, he's definitely getting moved this Season, probably close to the deadline when his value will be at its peak (provided he continues his play from last year)...Guerin did a good job here since he knows he can't afford Fiala next Season...

 

[Curufinwe]

Buying out Parise made sense, as he was not playing. Many Wild fans disagree on the Suter buyout, thinking that he still has some good years left in the tank.

Shame they couldn't have traded Suter with 50% retention. That would only be $3,769,231 in dead space for four years.

 

[Bruce Granville]

Is he a UFA after this next season? Does his 5 gp in 15/16 count as a season played?



If those 5 games count then it looks like this walks Fiala to UFA status.

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[Curufinwe]

Is he a UFA after this next season? Does his 5 gp in 15/16 count as a season played?

No.

LENGTH: 1 YEAR
EXPIRY STATUS: RFA
SIGNING TEAM: Minnesota Wild
VALUE: $5,100,000
C.H.%

: 6.26
SIGNING DATE: August 16, 2021

 

[LickTheEnvelope]

No.

LENGTH: 1 YEAR
EXPIRY STATUS: RFA
SIGNING TEAM: Minnesota Wild
VALUE: $5,100,000
C.H.%

: 6.26
SIGNING DATE: August 16, 2021

That's interesting. Is it 25 games played + that counts as a season played?

 

[VanillaCoke]

Might as well trade him and Kaprizov now that Minnesota is in a self imposed 4 year rebuild.

 

[JAK]

I would not be surprised if Billy is already on the phones offering Fiala @50% retained to see how many picks he can get from a contender.

Fiala would be one hot ticket item IMO for a team that is in a MUST WIN THIS SEASON mode. And the team could also flip him at the draft, for one of the hottest ticket item then.

Colorado could signal to the league that it's their cup this year.

Vancouver? Benning has a mandate from Ownership, and the easiest way to fix your defensive issue is to outscore it.

Both team's top 9 would be insane.

 

[57special]

Shame they couldn't have traded Suter with 50% retention. That would only be $3,769,231 in dead space for four years.

but they would be still on the hook for cap recapture penalties if he retired early.

 

[Bounces R Way]

Don't really get it. Is this not a player you want to keep? Trading talented 25 year olds is a curious way to go about a rebuild.

Guess they could be wanting to see Fiala establish himself better, really only had two seasons of top line production. But then they were willing to give Kaprizov 9 per on a long term deal based on one. Confused on what the direction is for the Wild, as is customary.

 

[JAK]

Don't really get it. Is this not a player you want to keep? Trading talented 25 year olds is a curious way to go about a rebuild.

The next 4 years pretty much is dead for Minnesota considering the giant buyout penalties. It would be a great time to retool, I think if they can flip Fiala for assets that would mature over the next 4 years, that would actually be a great move.

 

[AKL]

That's interesting. Is it 25 games played + that counts as a season played?

It's the 10th game that burns a year off every ELC players contract.

 

[Moose and Squirrel]

The schedule on the dead cap space from the buyouts is:

2021-22: $4.7m
2022-23: $12.7m
2023-24: $14.7m
2024-25: $14.7m

(and then several years at $1.6m)

So 2021-22 is the "easy" year and 2022-25 will be very tight.

still cheaper than paying Parise/Suter to play for them

 

[Bazeek]

still cheaper than paying Parise/Suter to play for them

Yeah, people do seem to overlook that in years 3 and 4 that was likely going to be $15m in mostly dead cap space regardless. Buying out Parise was already addition by subtraction and the best case scenario with a 39 year old Suter is a $7.5m bottom-pairing defenseman. This problem was introduced 9 years ago, not a few months ago.

 

[Moose and Squirrel]

Yeah, people do seem to overlook that in years 3 and 4 that was likely going to be $15m in mostly dead cap space regardless. Buying out Parise was already addition by subtraction and the best case scenario with a 39 year old Suter is a $7.5m bottom-pairing defenseman. This problem was introduced 9 years ago, not a few months ago.

isn't suter's cap 10m (or 11)? so even if he continued to play decently, it's still a way bigger cap hit

parise was going regardless... and yeah, those signings were not 'smart'

 

[Guttersniped]

Is he a UFA after this next season? Does his 5 gp in 15/16 count as a season played?



If those 5 games count then it looks like this walks Fiala to UFA status.

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[Name Nameless]

The schedule on the dead cap space from the buyouts is:

2021-22: $4.7m
2022-23: $12.7m
2023-24: $14.7m
2024-25: $14.7m

(and then several years at $1.6m)

So 2021-22 is the "easy" year and 2022-25 will be very tight.

In theory, what would this be if the league came to senses and not penalized contracts they initially accepted, even if it was grudgingly?

I mean, if you accept them, you can't change the rules.

I know that is what happened.

Edit. People point out this isn't recapture, so it is just due to the fact the cap-hit was really high compared to the salary, and it would have been like this even without the changed rules? Ok, then I have no sympathy here.

 

[Breakers]

In theory, what would this be if the league came to senses and not penalized contracts they initially accepted, even if it was grudgingly?

I mean, if you accept them, you can't change the rules.

I know that is what happened.

what? This isn’t recapture