Player Discussion Mikko Koivu (Part II)

[Dr Jan Itor]

Probably a penalty, but whatever.

 

[57special]

Eh, they owed us one for that penalty they called on Dumba. Stone was clearly holding his stick by the blade.

 

[SupremeNachos]

I'm still not seeing how that's a tackle.

 

[ThatGuy22]

Probably a penalty, but whatever.

Nah. Ryan initiated. Koivu had a lane to the puck, and Ryan tried to take it away and do the classic reverse check. Koivu just did a bit of a stutter step and used Ryans momentum to brush him off.

Koivu wasn't legal to hit at that point Ryan tried to take away his lane. If anything, its interference on Ryan.

 

[BagHead]

It was simply revenge for when Ryan scored a goal with Koivu's stick. Got a long memory, that Koivu.

 

[ManwithNoIdentity]

I'm going to miss this guy when he's done.

Yes I know it's a cliche it hes the face of the franchise

 

[TaLoN]

I'm going to miss this guy when he's done.

Yes I know it's a cliche it hes the face of the franchise

Koivu has been one of the most under appreciated players in the history of the league.

He has been so much better than fans of the NHL and even the Wild give him respect for being.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

“History” is probably pushing it a little bit.

 

[Soldier13Fox]

Koivu has been one of the most under appreciated players in the history of the league.

He has been so much better than fans of the NHL and even the Wild give him respect for being.

Completely agree with both Talon's statement and No Identity's. He's a genuine class act too.

EDIT: Mis-read what "history" we're talking about. History of the Wild franchise ... absolutely

 

[TaLoN]

“History” is probably pushing it a little bit.

He should've won a Selke or two at least... should've been a finalist several times over. His lack of respect nationally over his career was a joke imo... especially from fans.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

He should've won a Selke or two at least... should've been a finalist several times over. His lack of respect nationally over his career was a joke imo... especially from fans.

That’s a lot to say when his career has overlapped with both Datsyuk and Bergeron.

 

[TaLoN]

That’s a lot to say when his career has overlapped with both Datsyuk and Bergeron.

Yet Kesler has a Selke? Koivu was MUCH better that season.

Yes, Koivu should have a Selke or two.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Yet Kesler has a Selke? Koivu was MUCH better that season.

Kesler wasn’t a scrub defensively and was a really important part of a Cup Finals team that year. That same year, Koivu had a good season on a bad team. Not that hard to justify.

 

[TaLoN]

Kesler wasn’t a scrub defensively and was a really important part of a Cup Finals team that year. That same year, Koivu had a good season on a bad team. Not that hard to justify.

The voting takes place prior to the playoffs. The cup has no impact.

Koivu didn't even get the respect of a nomination that season, which imo was a travesty.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

The voting takes place prior to the playoffs. The cup has no impact.

Koivu didn't even get the respect of a nomination that season, which imo was a travesty.

Vancouver had 54 wins and 117 points that year. They were absolutely Cup-caliber and it proved out.

He would’ve been battling Datsyuk, Bergeron and Toews for the nomination. Not so much a travesty.

 

[TaLoN]

Vancouver had 54 wins a 117 points that year. They were absolutely Cup-caliber and it proved out.

He would’ve been battling Datsyuk, Bergeron and Toews for the nomination. Not so much a travesty.

Yes, it was a travesty of you recall his play imo. Koivu was an absolute monster that year, but whatever. You have your opinion, I have mine. Koivu should have easily been a several time nominee and should have at least a Selke or two.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Yes, it was a travesty of you recall his play imo. Koivu was an absolute monster that year, but whatever. You have your opinion, I have mine. Koivu should have easily been a several time nominee and should have at least a Selke or two.

Other players are allowed to “monsters” too.

 

[TaLoN]

Other players are allowed to “monsters” too.

Who said they weren't? But Koivu was better that year.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Who said they weren't? But Koivu was better that year.

Better than a 3 time consecutive winner and a future 4 out of 6 years... I have my doubts.

Either way, getting passed over for 1 Selke award doesn’t make you historically underrated.

 

[ManwithNoIdentity]

He's definitely overlooked by the entire league when it's all said and done

I wish we had him for like 5 more years but I can see him retiring when he hits FA

 

[Arturia Pendragon]

In the history of the NHL's most underrated players, Koivu will finish just like he did in Selke voting.

Close, but not quite there.

 

[tomgilbertfan]

 

[Wabit]

So did someone share the magic crystals with Mikko?

 

[TaLoN]

So did someone share the magic crystals with Mikko?

I was actually surprised when I heard 3-4 weeks on a minor MCL sprain in the first place. In the NFL that same injury is usually only 1-2 weeks. Skating is generally easier on the knees than open field cuts while wearing cleats (Bruno finished a season and the playoffs with a known torn ACL, never would happen in a million years in the NFL).

This seems to fit more with what is more typical of minor MCL sprains.

 

[Wabit]

I was actually surprised when I heard 3-4 weeks on a minor MCL sprain in the first place. In the NFL that same injury is usually only 1-2 weeks. Skating is generally easier on the knees than open field cuts while wearing cleats (Bruno finished a season and the playoffs with a known torn ACL, never would happen in a million years in the NFL).

This seems to fit more with what is more typical of minor MCL sprains.

I don't want him to come back too soon and injure it more. If the Wild's medical staff say he's ready sit him for at least 1 more game.