Confirmed with Link: Mike Johnston HC, Tocchet AC, Martin ??|Penguins Hire Headless Body of Gary Agnew

[Speaking Moistly]

They probably watched funny cat videos on youtube the whole time though. Let's be honest.

They were on topic funny cat videos!

 

[66-30-33]

Alright, now let's try get a top 6 forward, trade Scuds/Dupuis and see what we have with this team. It's year 1, let's fix this ****.

 

[SHOOTANDSCORE]

Thread on Agnew's firing.
http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=1665513

Fans weren't too happy about his pp

 

[Speaking Moistly]

Josh Yohe ‏@JoshYohe_Trib
The man who sold Penguins coach Mike Johnston on assistant coach Gary Agnew? Ken Hitchcock, whose St. Louis Blues fired him 2 months ago.
https://twitter.com/JoshYohe_Trib/status/487343554579427329

Hmmmm


Pittsburgh Penguins ‏@penguins
Versatility is the one of the things Mike Johnston likes most about new assistant coach Gary Agnew. Full story → http://pens.pe/1mPnO7k
https://twitter.com/penguins/status/487356309776240640

 

[SHOOTANDSCORE]

I'm going to go out on a limb and say

Tocchet- runs the O and the PP
Agnew- the D and the PK
Martin- upstairs/video

 

[Jacob]

You can't really go wrong with someone that has as much experience as him. He's not going to generate the fanfare that Tocchet's hiring did but he'll probably be just as important to the staff, if not more so.

It's a unique and eclectic coaching staff. The least experienced in terms of coaching is the only one that's been an NHL head coach. I don't think any of the three knew eachother prior to a month ago, so there's no favoritism or country club stuff going on.

 

[Fordy]

Thread on Agnew's firing.
http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=1665513

Fans weren't too happy about his pp

i'm seeing a lot of "the powerplay sucked" and very little in the way of what they actually think he was doing wrong. sounds like he's getting a little scapegoated to me

 

[SHOOTANDSCORE]

i'm seeing a lot of "the powerplay sucked" and very little in the way of what they actually think he was doing wrong. sounds like he's getting a little scapegoated to me

Yeah, the only specific thing I remember was someone saying they don't attack the middle of the ice. You could probably say that about 90% of the unsuccessful powerplays.

 

[SHOOTANDSCORE]

http://triblive.com/sports/penguins/6424273-74/agnew-coach-johnston

“In St. Louis, it was all about the details of defense, checking to score,†he said. “That means, if you don't have the puck, you better get it back. It's a basic philosophy, and it holds true. ... Teams that play 200 feet win Stanley Cups.â€

Johnston, who said he worked primarily with defensemen while coaching in Portland, might handle the bulk of the work with his team' s blue line.

 

[flaneur]

To say the least, this new group of coaches makes an intriguing combination.

Not sure how they are going to split the actual responsibilities but from a personality standpoint it seems like Tocchet is going to be the bad cop, Agnew the good cop, and Johnston the tactician. And I guess Martin is the experienced vet?

 

[Pancakes]

To say the least, this new group of coaches makes an intriguing combination.

Not sure how they are going to split the actual responsibilities but from a personality standpoint it seems like Tocchet is going to be the bad cop, Agnew the good cop, and Johnston the tactician. And I guess Martin is the experienced vet?

Who is gonna tell the boys that we need to get to our game?

Adjusting to post Bylsma life is haaaaaaaaard

 

[canadianguy77]

Who is gonna tell the boys that we need to get to our game?

Adjusting to post Bylsma life is haaaaaaaaard

No offense PC, but can we be done with this? It just puts me in a bad space, and I want to look forward now. I need to look forward now.

 

[madinsomniac]

the far bigger questions... who will run Mustache Boy shootouts? And who shall coordinate Narc-ing with player-hating? How can we live without that?

 

[Jacob]

I don't think Tocchet will be some ball buster or anything. But certainly with his reputation as a player something he says is going to carry weight. I think he's also the go-between with the players and Johnston/Agnew/Martin, who are all more or less career coaches.

 

[KIRK]

I'm going to go out on a limb and say

Tocchet- runs the O and the PP
Agnew- the D and the PK
Martin- upstairs/video

Pretty sure Johnston said he'd be running the PP himself.

No matter who is running what, I want to see a situation where (a) whoever runs the PK uses Sid AND Geno at long last and (b) whoever runs the forwards isn't afraid to govern whether lines stick together or are juggled in a game based upon whether it's good for Sid and Geno and whether they are going and/or need jump starts.

 

[Shockmaster]

Pretty sure Johnston said he'd be running the PP himself.

No matter who is running what, I want to see a situation where (a) whoever runs the PK uses Sid AND Geno at long last and (b) whoever runs the forwards isn't afraid to govern whether lines stick together or are juggled in a game based upon whether it's good for Sid and Geno and whether they are going and/or need jump starts.

But but but...... if Crosby and Malkin kill penalties that would mean Adams serves absolutely no purpose! Can't have that!

 

[quins]

But but but...... if Crosby and Malkin kill penalties that would mean Adams serves absolutely no purpose! Can't have that!

If Geno tried on D he could actually be decent

 

[Ogrezilla]

If Geno tried on D he could actually be decent

When Geno tries, he is the best backchecker on the team and a complete takeaway machine.

 

[quins]

When Geno tries, he is the best backchecker on the team and a complete takeaway machine.

Yep. Exactly.

 

[iFishyHD]

If Geno tried on D he could actually be decent

Genos defensive play is very underated. He does try.

 

[IcedCapp]

Genos defensive play is very underated. He does try.

I know, I don't get this notion that he's lazy at all. Last year he was often the only one doing the work on his line.

I can't remember the last time Geno was consistently lazy.

(I also think this points to a "room" problem. Sid and Geno are always the two hardest workers in the top-6, without fail. It doesn't translate into the guys around them working harder. In fact, in the very recent past, it's been just the opposite)

 

[quins]

I know, I don't get this notion that he's lazy at all. Last year he was often the only one doing the work on his line.

I can't remember the last time Geno was consistently lazy.

(I also think this points to a "room" problem. Sid and Geno are always the two hardest workers in the top-6, without fail. It doesn't translate into the guys around them working harder. In fact, in the very recent past, it's been just the opposite)

Just when he tries to do too much like going for steals and he comes up empty. Looks like he floats around.

 

[Shockmaster]

It's not like Malkin is unfamiliar with killing penalties:

 

[Speaking Moistly]

I know, I don't get this notion that he's lazy at all. Last year he was often the only one doing the work on his line.

I can't remember the last time Geno was consistently lazy.

(I also think this points to a "room" problem. Sid and Geno are always the two hardest workers in the top-6, without fail. It doesn't translate into the guys around them working harder. In fact, in the very recent past, it's been just the opposite)

I think it's more when he's on or off. When he's off or not clicking he gets down and ends in him being done with it.

This team was far too comfortable being carried by Crosby and Malkin, or whoever on an individual level. They had a lot of players thinking it was okay to do **** all and a lot of them weren't talented enough to get away with it in any way. TBF, some of them were too bad to do anything but be carried. I don't see how it failed.

 

[penguins2946*]

It's not like Malkin is unfamiliar with killing penalties:

The 4 players on the PK in that were Malkin, Hossa, Gonchar and Whitney. I don't know if Bylsma would have used any of those 4 on the PK if he was the coach then.

Goddammit I miss Hossa. I wish he would have taken that 7 year deal

Edit: I was watching a couple clips from the Pens 2 cup runs in 2008 and 2009. Three things I noticed that are massively different on the cup run compared to last year was that a lot of goals were scored on rebounds around the net, there was a lot more cycling and there was just more enthusiasm. All 3 of those were lacking in recent years.