Messi vs. Ronaldo

[Havre]

I mean, it's not hard to check, and it's not even close to being true.

His knee injury happened in November 199.
3 seasons until then:
Barca, 49 games, 47 goals (his best season)
Inter, 47 games, 34 goals (his 2nd best season ever)
Inter, 28 games, 15 goals (then the injury happened)

124 games, 96 goals is hardly a goal per game.

I like how you completely disregard the rest of me post.

Maybe I should have skipped “very”.

In any case he was on a higher trajectory at that point in his career than both Messi and C. Ronaldo.

I don’t consider Ronaldo the biggest talent ever, but I can see why some think so. Maybe even more so than C. Ronaldo.

 

[Suiteness]

But as you mentioned that, in 98 Ronaldo scored 4 goals. Surely nothing spectacular for a then-considered the best player on the best team.
And he was completely gone from the final, so much so, that his performance in that game has always been clouded with mystery, speculating an illness etc.
His one big moment was vs a real good Holland side in the semi, but other than that, his whole WC was rather pedestrian for a striker of his reputation and quality at the time.

Dude, he was 21 at the time. Compare his performance to some of the other top players of the same age at this time ( Like O. Dembélé for instance) and you realize how massive the man was.

 

[Corto]

Yeah but even through the stats you could see how fkn difficult it was hard to score in a very defensive Serie A era. Also there were many teams that were very competitive back then. I still remember how much I would sweat my ass off whenever Ronaldo touched the ball. He was that dangerous.
Skill wise he is definitely behind Messi IMO, but ahead of Ronaldo. Both had a better career though.

Oh I agree, Serie A in the 7 Sisters era was the NBA of leagues.
Thing is, you know by how many goals Ronaldo was winning scoring titles? Well, he never won it. Mind you, he had one healthy season at Inter, his 2nd best ever - and he wasn't even the top scorer in the league.

His best ever league season was a fantastic 34 goals in 37 games at Barca.
Cristiano's best ever? 48 in 35 goals.
Ronaldo's Barca was 0.92 goals per game. Fantastic.
Crisitano.... Has EIGHT seasons that are better than that. His highest is a ridiculous 1.37 goals per game.

It really is comparing apples and oranges.

It's Messi and Cristiano for a reason. They're only comparable to each other, and any other comparisons are a joke.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Brazilian Ronaldo is the most talented footballer ever.

Messi, if he wins this World Cup, is the best footballer ever.

Cristiano Ronaldo is the most marketable football star ever.

 

[The Abusement Park]

Saying R9 is better than CR7 is like saying all Lindros is better than Howe because he had the size, skill, power to do it all. Doesn’t change the fact that Howe did it and Lindros could’ve. Same with R9 and CR7, R9 was the more talented player naturally absolutely. But CR7 did what R9 never did.

 

[koyvoo]

Brazilian Ronaldo is the most talented footballer ever.

Messi, if he wins this World Cup, is the best footballer ever.

Cristiano Ronaldo is the most marketable football star ever.

David Beckham would’ve been the most marketable football star of all time. Had everything except for the decade of 50 goal seasons...

 

[Corto]

Saying R9 is better than CR7 is like saying all Lindros is better than Howe because he had the size, skill, power to do it all. Doesn’t change the fact that Howe did it and Lindros could’ve. Same with R9 and CR7, R9 was the more talented player naturally absolutely. But CR7 did what R9 never did.

I'd say that's fair. There certainly have been footballers more talented than Cristiano - but only one has ever "put it together" on Cristiano's level (or slightly above, and that one player is Messi, noone else).

 

[maclean]

The only comparable was Pele.



Just one that I picked but there's literally dozens more like that.

Sorry, was this video meant to point out how shitty defending was in those days?

 

[Suiteness]

David Beckham would’ve been the most marketable football star of all time. Had everything except for the decade of 50 goal seasons...

The second Beckham opened his mouth, the illusion was shattered and broken for good.

 

[Asiantuntija]

You said "every single time". So you were wrong as I pointed out.

Yeah, he scored those four goals, but it was in six matches and not five. On top of that, one goal was a penalty when the score was already 3-1 and the match effectively over. Another, as I've already noted, was a deflected shot. As for his performances, he didn't show up much in almost half of those finals including this year. In fact he was only officially Man of the Match once.

Wrong, again. He showed up in this year's Copa Final, he showed up in both Clasicos this year, he showed up in the Copa Final, etc. That's just this past season and not to mention getting Argentina to the World Cup or today.

So you're wrong about Ronaldo AND Messi now, but then the regulars of this forum have known that since the first day you decided to post here.

In same sentence where i was talking about 3 CL victories in row

Well maybe he hasn't been on best form at finals, but it's way harder to make your way to the final than won the final. That been said his worst final was way better performance than Messi first two games in this WC.

Nice achievements but absolutely nothing compared to thinks Ronaldo did this season.

I have different option about it, but that doesn't mean i'm wrong.

 

[Asiantuntija]

Brazilian Ronaldo is the most talented footballer ever.

Messi, if he wins this World Cup, is the best footballer ever.

Cristiano Ronaldo is the most marketable football star ever.

IMO Ronaldinho was even more talented than CR & Messi but he didn't never reach his full potential.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

IMO Ronaldinho was even more talented than CR & Messi but he didn't never reach his full potential.

Yeah, because of dangles and flair... he wasn't even close to Messi. In terms of dribbling with a purpose, passing, shooting, scoring. Really not a single category Dinho has over Messi. Except you know flair that blinds today's youth.

 

[The Abusement Park]

Yeah, because of dangles and flair... he wasn't even close to Messi. In terms of dribbling with a purpose, passing, shooting, scoring. Really not a single category Dinho has over Messi. Except you know flair that blinds today's youth.

He also had stamina and recuperation over Messi. Dinho could also bang every girl in a club in one night, no way Messi could do that

 

[KJS14]

He also had stamina and recuperation over Messi. Dinho could also bang every girl in a club in one night, no way Messi could do that

Ronaldinho gunna have twice as many wives as Messi too.

 

[Dr Pepper]

He also had stamina and recuperation over Messi. Dinho could also bang every girl in a club in one night, no way Messi could do that

Oh, and I'm sure they were just lining up for him, too.

That said, I heard earlier he married two women at the same time? I guess there is something there, lol

 

[The Abusement Park]

Oh, and I'm sure they were just lining up for him, too.

That said, I heard earlier he married two women at the same time? I guess there is something there, lol

I also heard that he slept with a different girl before every game he played. Now that’s just a rumor but from everything I’ve heard he was a total manwhore

 

[Evilo]

The two wives thing was denied as garbage.
However, Messi's wife is easily more sexy than two of Dinho's hookers.

 

[Suiteness]

He must had some work done, he was horribly buck-toothed when he first burst through.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

Oh, and I'm sure they were just lining up for him, too.

That said, I heard earlier he married two women at the same time? I guess there is something there, lol

Yeah money. Fame and football.

 

[Asiantuntija]

Yeah, because of dangles and flair... he wasn't even close to Messi. In terms of dribbling with a purpose, passing, shooting, scoring. Really not a single category Dinho has over Messi. Except you know flair that blinds today's youth.

Ronaldinho in his peak was way better dribbler & playmaker than Messi. Messi destroys him career wise, but in his best days he definitely dribbled with purpose & humiliated anyone, even world best defenders.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

Ronaldinho in his peak was way better dribbler & playmaker than Messi. Messi destroys him career wise, but in his best days he definitely dribbled with purpose & humiliated anyone, even world best defenders.

LOL

Not even close. He humiliates defenders without the end product of Messi. His best days spent dancing with the ball going no where.

 

[Corto]

Ronaldinho in his peak was way better dribbler & playmaker than Messi.

No, he wasn't.

I'll make it easy, though. No human has ever been a better dribbler than Messi. Noone. Ever.

 

[Wee Baby Seamus]

He also had stamina and recuperation over Messi. Dinho could also bang every girl in a club in one night, no way Messi could do that

But could he do it on a cold Wednesday night in Stoke?

 

[Asiantuntija]

No, he wasn't.

I'll make it easy, though. No human has ever been a better dribbler than Messi. Noone. Ever.

I disagree strongly. Prime Ronaldinho was better dribbler with larger skill-set & his playmaking skills we're just something else.

 

[The Abusement Park]

But could he do it on a cold Wednesday night in Stoke?

Need to refrain myself from the joke I was going to make.


But of course he could, cold weather makes it more necessary for extra body warmth.