TSN: [Melnyk]: Senators’ roster overhaul imminent

[L'Aveuglette]

Has anyone seen or heard from our General Manager in months? Does he have anything to say?

Apparently he's been out golfing with Shawn Simpson.

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

They need to put the brakes on putting 7-10 rookies in this lineup. They have some decent prospects but they also need time to develop properly.

That's what scares me. We have a good stable of kids, but we definitely run the risk of ruining a few of them if we toss them into the NHL too early.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Because they don’t know what they’re doing. Melnyk has ZERO idea what he’s doing or saying, he’s Trump 2.0, just spewing bull**** all the time then claiming he never said what he said.

Ya that whole comment about "people talking about moving the team" when it was him that f***ing said it just proves you're right. Dude has lost it.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

With the purge coming, they needed some warm bodies to occupy the roster. That's my speculation.

Aren't there cheaper warm bodies though? And for free via UFA? Why not take the picks for Hoffman and sign another nobody instead.

 

[AchtzehnBaby]

I can't wait until they announce Yzerman as the new GM!

 

[L'Aveuglette]

Aren't there cheaper warm bodies though? And for free via UFA? Why not take the picks for Hoffman and sign another nobody instead.

Dorion just read this and went, "oooohhhhhh".

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

You need some older players to mentor younger guys, and the direction on trading Hoffman was likely move him ASAP even if the return is less than ideal. As a result, took what was offered.

Except that it looks like we're about to move out the veterans we do have that are actually good. Why not use Hoffman as an asset to get futures like they appear ready to do with the big fish.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

 

[IceColdBear]

I think Melnyk may have been planning to slash spending (aka what he calls a rebuild... with no 1st round pick), for some time.

This could be why he didn't want to tie money up long-term in Kyle Turris, preferring instead to waste assets to acquire Duchene on a shorter term deal.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

I think Melnyk may have been planning to slash spending (aka what he calls a rebuild... with no 1st round pick), for some time.

This could be why he didn't want to tie money up long-term in Kyle Turris, preferring instead to waste assets to acquire Duchene on a shorter term deal.

All he had to do was keep Turris till the TDL and trade him for futures. Could have had another 2018 1st or OUR 2019 1st and another one... That mistake has set this team back years.

 

[coladin]

Really, the late 80s and early 90s? That's what you got?

In the cap era, has a team ever lost a player of Karlsson's calibre in his UFA year, outside of Tavares?

My point was "stars" leaving. Whether in their prime or not, they leave. I know here people lost their minds when Alfie left. Not in his prime, but a star in his own right.

Stars always leave. It just happens.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

I can't wait until they announce Yzerman as the new GM!

I wouldn’t be thrilled about hiring a guy who would be willing to be part of this org.

 

[UnHappyDude]

That's what scares me. We have a good stable of kids, but we definitely run the risk of ruining a few of them if we toss them into the NHL too early.

This is what the Sens have done repeatedly. It's not good

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

Yes, it's rare for a team to keep all its stars...but that's usually because they don't have cap room, not because they're being cheap.

Now, I do get it. We're not a Toronto market that has more money than many small countries. But that's why it's doubly important the the Sens to be smart. Like SOA said, if we can't afford everyone, the smart move was to exchange Turris for picks & prospects...not another (eventually) more expensive piece like Duchene. You don't sign a 36+ year old goalie to a multi-year contract a full season before you need to. You don't move your top goal scorer for basically a cap dump. You put more money into your farm system from Day 1 to maximize the potential of all your kids on ELCs. You act conservatively and don't act like a contender after one season where you went on a miracle run.

It seems like the organization just reacts to whatever they see. One good season...rebuild over, we're a contender! One bad season...retool, rebuild, panic! Dorion and Melynk are too emotional and reactionary to make good choice for the short and long term future of the organization.

 

[Sensung]

I wouldn’t be thrilled about hiring a guy who would be willing to be part of this org.

Solid use of a Groucho Marxism.

 

[L'Aveuglette]

To prepare an overhaul a year after giving away the one draft pick we truly need for a player it seems we will ship out for a lesser return now......well that's just pure incompetence.

 

[Ray Kinsella]

It's incredible that Melnyk is basically announcing a complete overhaul/rebuild/whatchamacallit while Dorion is nowhere to be seen or heard. Like, the guy whose job is literally to do that is in no way mentioned anywhere.

Latest: Pierre Dorion steps down as Ottawa GM.
Second latest: Mark Boro signed as new Ottawa Senators GM.

 

[Ray Kinsella]

I mean look at our marketing for years, it's not surprising. I really don't like piling on the org as its just too easy nowadays, but we have always been really bad at this.

Well... if it was bad before, it's been topped as way worse this week.

 

[danielpalfredsson]

To prepare an overhaul a year after giving away the one draft pick we truly need for a player it seems we will ship out for a lesser return now......well that's just pure incompetence.

Timing is the most crucial element to all comedy.

 

[Ray Kinsella]

Well, my friend heard wrong



edit: nvm

I heard he's suppose to break the silence on Thursday... ?

 

[Ray Kinsella]

Based on?

Because Alfie left at 41 y/o? Because Spezza was traded half broken down at 31 y/o? Because we traded soon to be 29 y/ Hoffman because of a particular situation? Because we traded half broken down disgruntled 29 y/o Heatley 10 years ago? Because we lost 32 y/o Methot to an expansion draft?

I can't think of 1 player that would make this statement hold the ground. If anything, Ottawa being a smaller market, they will hold on to younger players as long as possible and as long as they're not too expensive.

Or is it because of all those rumors/speculations? Until something happens, nothing out of this is fact. Can we at least wait for facts before making statements?

In other words, you're not taking EM's statements seriously in that incredible interview by new local journalist Boro?

 

[Wallet Inspector]

If they were going to "rebuild", then why didn't they GIVE COLORADO THE 2018 PICK AND KEEP THE 2019 ONE?!

 

[Ray Kinsella]

This was posted yesterday morning on twitter - sorry I don't know how to properly copy a twitter post into this forum

1. Connor‏ @connormockett 16h16 hours ago
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   Family friend was on an Air Canada flight today. Who's sitting a couple rows behind him? That's right, that'd be Erik Karlsson haha
   
   

...and Alfie behind Melinda...

 

[L'Aveuglette]

If they were going to "rebuild", then why didn't they GIVE COLORADO THE 2018 PICK AND KEEP THE 2019 ONE?!

None of the moves they've made up until now indicate there was ever a plan.

 

[harrisb]

If they were going to "rebuild", then why didn't they GIVE COLORADO THE 2018 PICK AND KEEP THE 2019 ONE?!

Eugene was excited, didn’t you see the video? The players were excited which made us excited which made Euge excited so they made the pick. Euge will blame this on fans for getting him excited....